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Archive 2009 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?

  
 
PetKal
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p.1 #1 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


This is a very peculiar sounding lens description being auctioned by Adorama's ebay dept.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-Telephoto-EF-500mm-f-4-0L-IS-USM-AF-Lens-w-CASE_W0QQitemZ370291634288QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item563719f070

What do you think ? Moreover.....anybody goin' to bid ?



Nov 17, 2009 at 05:59 PM
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p.1 #2 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Description says:
"Internal dust, Haze, Fungus and condensation. Autofocus doesn't work" Sounds like buyer beware on this item



Nov 17, 2009 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #3 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


I suspect that Adorama knows if it is practical to repair this lens or not. Its one thing to repair a focus motor but another if the glass is ruined from fungus. Its likely good for parts only.


Nov 17, 2009 at 06:05 PM
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p.1 #4 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Interesting: It grades the lens as E-. I hope that's a typo.


Nov 17, 2009 at 06:08 PM
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p.1 #5 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


No hood ?

"The lens worked OK before it's been listed for sale"..?

(E-) condition rating ?

A picture of an FD mount shown in addition to the EF mount.?

Two cases come with the lens ?

Edited on Nov 17, 2009 at 06:11 PM · View previous versions



Nov 17, 2009 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #6 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


"Prior to listing, the lens has been tested and works perfectly!"

"Aperture ring features positive f stops. "



Nov 17, 2009 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #7 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


?? Um yeah, beyond the obvious problems in the description why is there a picture of a FD mount? This doesn't sound like something Adorama would put out for sale but, maybe they've had recent change in policy??


Nov 17, 2009 at 06:26 PM
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p.1 #8 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Ok, I see you've noticed the FD mount as well Petkal. OTOH what's even worse is that there are 3 bids on it already and it's going for over $2500! Why would anyone spend that much on a destroyed lens? Or maybe there is something wrong with me?

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Nov 17, 2009 at 06:29 PM
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p.1 #9 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


7 day return policy, so maybe they're planning to get it checked out immediately and if beyond repair just return it?


Nov 17, 2009 at 06:30 PM
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p.1 #10 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Looks like someone royally screwed this listing up.

My bet is you get an EF 500/4 that has been dropped into a sewer as well as a perfect (E-) FD lens with positive aperture clicks and all to compensate for the remorse you will be feeling for having bid more than $2.500 for a piece of junk



Nov 17, 2009 at 06:34 PM
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p.1 #11 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


What a great way to get to know Adorama.


Nov 17, 2009 at 06:43 PM
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p.1 #12 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


The optics of that is bad. That ebay sales group casts a poor reflection on Adorama on the whole. Seen a similar thing before on two separate listings of 200 f/1.8 .
Their staff should be retrained and reoriented from English onward. The supervisor to be reassigned to the warehousing detail.....general housekeeping duties.

Helen, my standard fee for this kind corp mgmt advice is 100 f/2.8 IS lens or a $ equivalent sum.



Nov 17, 2009 at 06:54 PM
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p.1 #13 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Watch out PetKal, they have one of those for sale for only $100. Ok, with an issue or 3.


Nov 17, 2009 at 07:55 PM
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p.1 #14 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


gasrocks wrote:
Watch out PetKal, they have one of those for sale for only $100. Ok, with an issue or 3.


Thanx for letting me know about that, Gene.
Ever since I bought a Tree-Shark Proof Bird Feeder from an eBay seller, I keep my guard on.....always.

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Nov 17, 2009 at 08:16 PM
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p.1 #15 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Zara wrote:
Looks like someone royally screwed this listing up.

My bet is you get an EF 500/4 that has been dropped into a sewer as well as a perfect (E-) FD lens with positive aperture clicks and all to compensate for the remorse you will be feeling for having bid more than $2.500 for a piece of junk


+1 No way that beat up 2000 lens is E- in my book.

EBH



Nov 17, 2009 at 10:16 PM
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p.1 #16 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


They changed the condition to V but left the rest of the strange parts. Baffling.


Nov 19, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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p.1 #17 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


pingflood wrote:
"Prior to listing, the lens has been tested and works perfectly!"



They also seem to have dropped the above standard descriptor which they use for all lenses they are selling. I suppose we need to give them some credit here, they are moving in the right direction: a lens that doesn't AF shouldn't indeed be considered to " work perfectly". Thank goodness the MF ring is "smooth".....that has always been a strong selling point with the MF/alternative crowd.



Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM
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p.1 #18 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


And yet the aperture ring still features positive f stops.


Nov 19, 2009 at 12:38 PM
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p.1 #19 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Last week they ran an auction that was very confusing. Obviously they use a template for their descriptions and should definitely do some proofing before publishing their listings.

Question #1
ME: "Your Title Says 1D Mark III but the pictures are a
1Ds Mark III and the description is of the 1Ds
Mark III. What model camera is the auction for?"

Adorwin: "It is for a 1Ds Mark III"

Question #2
ME: One more question. In your description, it says
"NOT TURNING ON - DOES NOT WORK" but the last
sentence says "Prior to listing, the camera has
been tested and works perfectly". Please clarify
if the camera works or not.

Adorwin: "There is listing error. We will close it and revise it."



Nov 19, 2009 at 02:08 PM
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p.1 #20 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


When in doubt, avoid. Better safe than sorry.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Nov 19, 2009 at 06:12 PM
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