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p.1 #1 · I need a clear moon photo


Could anyone send me a clear 3 MB moon photo to project for a high School Play.
I could spent a little on it I thought I had one but can't find it.
Thank you,
George

Nov 17, 2009 at 03:56 PM
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p.1 #2 · I need a clear moon photo


Wouldn't searching RF stock be more effective and efficient?

Nov 17, 2009 at 04:04 PM
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Wow guy, seriously?

http://images.google.com/images?q=full+moon&gbv=2&hl=en&imgsz=4mp

http://images.google.com/images?q=crescent+moon&gbv=2&hl=en&imgsz=4mp

Nov 17, 2009 at 05:16 PM
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p.1 #4 · I need a clear moon photo


dont steal. buy stock.

Nov 17, 2009 at 05:52 PM
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hyperion wrote:
dont steal. buy stock.


Not all instances of using a photo of the moon from the Internet would be construed as "stealing"; some photos are available to be used for free without a license, other photos could be fall under "fair use"; still other photos could be in the public domain (ex: a photo taken by a NASA probe)

So let's not throw around words like "steal" so impetuously, ok?

Nov 17, 2009 at 07:09 PM
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Why not just go out at night and shoot a few frames yourself?

And telling someone to go to Google and steal some photos is just tacky.

Nov 17, 2009 at 08:37 PM
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mdude85 wrote:
hyperion wrote:
dont steal. buy stock.


Not all instances of using a photo of the moon from the Internet would be construed as "stealing"; some photos are available to be used for free without a license, other photos could be fall under "fair use"; still other photos could be in the public domain (ex: a photo taken by a NASA probe)

So let's not throw around words like "steal" so impetuously, ok?


How about trying to "throw" out some support for our industry by guiding someone to purchase something? I mean even microstock is better than telling them to get something for free...and are you going to be there guiding them on what's free and what's not off of google if they grab one by mistake?


Nov 17, 2009 at 09:11 PM
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Brent Ward wrote:
mdude85 wrote:
hyperion wrote:
dont steal. buy stock.


Not all instances of using a photo of the moon from the Internet would be construed as "stealing"; some photos are available to be used for free without a license, other photos could be fall under "fair use"; still other photos could be in the public domain (ex: a photo taken by a NASA probe)

So let's not throw around words like "steal" so impetuously, ok?


How about trying to "throw" out some support for our industry by guiding someone to purchase something? I mean even microstock is better than telling them to get something for free...and are you going to be there guiding them on what's free and what's not off of google if they grab one by mistake?



No, it's not my responsibility or obligation to do so, just as it's not your responsibility or obligation to donate money so that the OP can purchase something.

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Nov 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM
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mdude85 wrote:
hyperion wrote:
dont steal. buy stock.


Not all instances of using a photo of the moon from the Internet would be construed as "stealing"; some photos are available to be used for free without a license, other photos could be fall under "fair use"; still other photos could be in the public domain (ex: a photo taken by a NASA probe)

So let's not throw around words like "steal" so impetuously, ok?



Gonna have to agree with Mdude. I know my tax money paid for those nasa moon photos and if he uses a public domain nasa photo there is No need for OP to pay again (as a US citizen) especially since this is for educational purposes.....

It's not like he asked for a moon photo for a billboard or Ad.

Nov 18, 2009 at 03:47 AM
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I'm a 3rd vote for free moon photos.
All you copyright mavens need to research the economics of infinite supply.
This is a school play, not an ad campaign. Even if it were and ad campaign, Moon photos are a dime a dozen. Everybody who rented a long lens once has one. None of them are unique. The moon hasn't changed much in the last million years. If you care about the few cents you could be making off a moon shot, something is wrong with your business model.

Nov 19, 2009 at 03:33 AM
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haijak wrote:
I'm a 3rd vote for free moon photos.
All you copyright mavens need to research the economics of infinite supply.


Doesn't matter HOW many images of the moon there are, they are still copyrighted and not public domain unless it's from NASA or the photographer has released it to public domain.

Other photographers telling people that it's okay to swipe something instead of paying 10 bucks is destroying the industry that you yourself are part of. It's like people who work in a sock plant in the US, going to walmart and buying socks made over seas, then having the nerve to complain when they lose their jobs...




Nov 19, 2009 at 03:54 AM
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p.1 #12 · I need a clear moon photo


I always loved this one by Noel Carboni:



This image is copyrighted by the owner




Nov 19, 2009 at 06:41 AM
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p.1 #13 · I need a clear moon photo


http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/

NASA still images; audio files; video; and computer files used in the rendition of 3-dimensional models, such as texture maps and polygon data in any format, generally are not copyrighted. You may use NASA imagery, video, audio, and data files used for the rendition of 3-dimensional models for educational or informational purposes, including photo collections, textbooks, public exhibits, computer graphical simulations and Internet Web pages. This general permission extends to personal Web pages.

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Brent Ward wrote:
haijak wrote:
I'm a 3rd vote for free moon photos.
All you copyright mavens need to research the economics of infinite supply.


Doesn't matter HOW many images of the moon there are, they are still copyrighted and not public domain unless it's from NASA or the photographer has released it to public domain.

Other photographers telling people that it's okay to swipe something instead of paying 10 bucks is destroying the industry that you yourself are part of. It's like people who work in a sock plant in the US, going to walmart and buying socks made over seas, then having the nerve to complain when they lose their jobs...





The owner of the copyright can license the photo to be used by a variety of parties with no fee or consequence. The mere existence of a copyright does not bar distribution of a photo per se. Again, using words like "steal" and "swipe" give a negative connotation to a perfectly legal option of obtaining an image for free.

If the OP wants to purchase a photo, he is free to do so, but I am doing my part to provide an alternative choice to purchasing photos...obtaining them for free from people willing to distribute them for free. I don't believe that doing so implicates me in the destruction of the photography industry any more than giving someone driving directions to the nearest Wal Mart implicates me in the destruction of the sock industry.

Nov 19, 2009 at 03:28 PM
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Thanks for posting that photo TomK.

I have been showing some folk that would appreciate it... and they do!

Nov 19, 2009 at 08:43 PM
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This following post got away from me a little. It's been brewing in me for quite a while.
I apologies to gmff, for it being so far off topic. I don't have any decent moon shots, sorry.

Brent Ward wrote:
Doesn't matter HOW many images of the moon there are, they are still copyrighted and not public domain unless it's from NASA or the photographer has released it to public domain.


Your using legal arguments against a moral judgment call.
It's like charging $50 shipping on something advertised for $5. Sure it's perfectly legal, yet still very wrong.

Other photographers telling people that it's okay to swipe something instead of paying 10 bucks is destroying the industry that you yourself are part of. It's like people who work in a sock plant in the US, going to walmart and buying socks made over seas, then having the nerve to complain when they lose their jobs...

Never said it was a good idea for someone to steal a moon photo for a school play. I just think it's a silly idea to make them to pay. But your point is correct. I and those like me would be similar to your sock manufactures, if we complained about it. But we aren't. You are.

Say somebody used a bump key to break into my house to use a tissue. I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. No damage, total lost value $0.002, nothing worth getting truly upset over. It's the difference between making a judgment call by rationally looking at the circumstances of an individuals actions, or how those actions conform to some ideal you built in your imagination.

Time and time again I see people here post about this topic, thinking that everyone has some self evident inalienable right to be paid for something they create. That is simply not the case. You certainly have the right to ask to be paid. But nobody MUST pay. They can go elsewhere to get a different price, or just skip it all-together. If they choose to steal it, legally damage needs to be proven (in legal theory any way, practice seems to be different). That's easy in the case of physical goods. In the case of intellectual goods it is much more complicated.

Currently people have convinced the ignorant public and judges to that if somebody asked to wave a magic wand to enter my home and create a tissue out of thin air, instead of just doing it without my permission or knowledge, I could have charged him for the new napkin he made, and any others that other people might have magically made from his. Which is an argument that magically creates damage out of thin air by making moral assertions that don't apply to the circumstances of the actual situation.

We "copyright progressives" if you will, understand that we can't make a living with the same old socks we have been. We need to find ways of adapting to the new situation, without getting hung up on how we imagine things should work, but instead on rationally looking at the circumstances of the situation and adapting to it.

Nov 20, 2009 at 04:59 AM
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haijak wrote:


We "copyright progressives" if you will, understand that we can't make a living with the same old socks we have been. We need to find ways of adapting to the new situation, without getting hung up on how we imagine things should work, but instead on rationally looking at the circumstances of the situation and adapting to it.


So am I right in guessing that photography isn't your full time job?

Copyright licensing isn't how people imagine things should work, it's what people fought for so hard resulting in the copyright act being passed in 1976.

"Copyright progressives" what a bunch of sh!t...


Nov 20, 2009 at 05:49 AM
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There are hundreds of royalty free moon images available on the internet.

Nov 20, 2009 at 05:55 AM
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I want a full res photo of the moon taken by the Hubble telescope. I paid for the damn thing - we all did.

Nov 22, 2009 at 03:24 AM
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haijak wrote:

Currently people have convinced the ignorant public and judges to that if somebody asked to wave a magic wand to enter my home and create a tissue out of thin air, instead of just doing it without my permission or knowledge, I could have charged him for the new napkin he made, and any others that other people might have magically made from his. Which is an argument that magically creates damage out of thin air by making moral assertions that don't apply to the circumstances of the actual situation.
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I dunno but when people start using magic wands as points of logic, I tune out and consider their argument to be a bit 'thin'...but that's just me.

Nov 22, 2009 at 03:53 AM
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BKphotography wrote:
Thanks for posting that photo Tom K.

I have been showing some folk that would appreciate it... and they do!


I'm glad.


Nov 22, 2009 at 06:03 AM
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You know what I have a few stock images of the moon at Work I will forward or email you them tomorrow.

I will forward our copyright and licencing agreement as well. just joking, no worries.





Nov 22, 2009 at 11:21 PM
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Try www.creativecommons.org. You can search flickr for pictures that are royalty free, can be modified, etc. It's a good starting place for free images.

Nov 22, 2009 at 11:37 PM
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Brent Ward wrote:
So am I right in guessing that photography isn't your full time job?


I would hesitate to call it full time. But photography certainly generates most of my income.

Copyright licensing isn't how people imagine things should work, it's what people fought for so hard resulting in the copyright act being passed in 1976.

Regrettably effort does not make something right. Copyright holders imagine they should have power to control some new technology, then they fight to make it so. rince repeat, over and over.

The Copyright act of 1976 was the 6th of 7 copyright acts.
1790, 1831, 1909, 1962, 1974, 1976, 1998.
The stated object of the act of 1790 was the "encouragement of learning."
Can any of the subsequent acts boast such a noble claim? No they can't, not even close. Nearly all following copyright acts, were used to prevent technological progress. Oh and to keep Mickey Mouse™ in Disney hands.

"Copyright progressives" what a bunch of sh!t...

It was the best term I could come up with in 5 seconds.
Sh!t... Late prime time shows say shit now.


Nov 23, 2009 at 03:14 AM
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Here you go........

This image is copyrighted by the owner




Nov 23, 2009 at 01:09 PM




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