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Nov 15, 2009 at 03:12 PM
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Enough with these posts!

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Nov 15, 2009 at 03:17 PM
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i'm happy you're happy, but what is the image above supposed to illustrate?

Nov 15, 2009 at 03:49 PM
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abam wrote:
i'm happy you're happy, but what is the image above supposed to illustrate?


It was taken with the TS-E 17. The link below the image furnishes details.



Nov 15, 2009 at 03:52 PM
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So, you shifted the lens up to "get rid" of the converging lines then? Do you remember by how much?

Nov 15, 2009 at 04:00 PM
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AGeoJO wrote:
So, you shifted the lens up to "get rid" of the converging lines then? Do you remember by how much?


No, I don't remember the actual shift. But it was around halfway (6 mm or so).


Nov 15, 2009 at 04:19 PM
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Nov 20, 2009 at 05:47 PM
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Some day I'll add the TS-E 17L to the kit. For now I'm enjoying the TS-E 24L II. These new TS-E's are amazing!

Nov 21, 2009 at 06:14 AM
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Rajan Parrikar wrote:


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whats casuing that abnormal flare spots in the road and on the building

Nov 21, 2009 at 10:26 PM
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Can you do BIF with this lens ?

Nov 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM
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parsons wrote:
whats casuing that abnormal flare spots in the road and on the building


Where?



Nov 21, 2009 at 11:55 PM
 



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I wouldn't call them flare spots but I noticed areas lit by the low setting sun - maybe some reflections off the windows?

Nov 22, 2009 at 12:00 AM
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AGeoJO wrote:
I wouldn't call them flare spots but I noticed areas lit by the low setting sun - maybe some reflections off the windows?


As I mention in the link below the image, the building was partially illuminated by the rising sun. In my view, this lighting situation enhances the image by providing a nice contrast between the upper lit and the lower unlit portions.



Nov 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM
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Why do I find this image unsettling? Is it to anyone else? It just doesn't look right, even for strictly architectural purposes.

Nov 22, 2009 at 03:27 AM
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Why do I find this image unsettling? Is it to anyone else? It just doesn't look right, even for strictly architectural purposes.



What is it that doesn't look right about it?

Nov 22, 2009 at 03:30 AM
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Nice lens, but I don't think it's a $2500 nice lens.

Nov 22, 2009 at 03:30 AM
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I would disagree Will the 17mm is the best lens I have ever used. If you are an architectural photographer then it is worth every dollar spent. Just like you are with the 400 f2.8 I would never think that lens is worth the money and that is certainly a lot more than the 17mm. It all depends on what you shoot, and the type of work that you shoot there is no use for an architectural lens.

Nov 22, 2009 at 05:50 AM
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Rajan Parrikar wrote:
Sarsfield wrote:
Why do I find this image unsettling? Is it to anyone else? It just doesn't look right, even for strictly architectural purposes.



What is it that doesn't look right about it?


I guess everyone has their own opinion, but here goes...

While I wouldn't call it "unsettling", I would call it less than optimal from a composition standpoint. I realize that sometimes these things can't be helped and while there's a sense of gestalt you feel when actually present, it doesn't always translate to the image. I think we've all had this experience more often than not.

The image, comprising two buildings, a partial sky, and no people, presents a few problems. It illustrates the same effect as when a person is too close to the border and facing away. They're in effect, leaving the picture or at least pushing the "interest" into a very small area. Occasionally, if it's done properly, a case can be made that odd placement conveys the sense that there's something else outside the pictures boundaries and it makes the image seem larger.

In this case, the "face" of building (and the tallest segment) is next to the edge. IMO it gives both a cramped and somewhat uninteresting image.

Since we have color (vs B&W), we also have the brightest - and lightest value - color, i.e., yellow, crammed down in the lower left corner. The larger red mass loses interest and the eye is pulled to the much smaller, but visually more interesting, small yellow building.



Nov 22, 2009 at 07:04 PM
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Maybe get rid of the lamp post, birds and shoot it from the front?

I think the shot is fine though as a representation of what the lens is capable of.

Nov 22, 2009 at 07:14 PM
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jamesf99 wrote:
I guess everyone has their own opinion, but here goes...

While I wouldn't call it "unsettling", I would call it less than optimal from a composition standpoint. I realize that sometimes these things can't be helped and while there's a sense of gestalt you feel when actually present, it doesn't always translate to the image. I think we've all had this experience more often than not.

The image, comprising two buildings, a partial sky, and no people, presents a few problems. It illustrates the same effect as when a person is too close to the border and facing away. They're in effect, leaving the picture or at least pushing the "interest" into a very small area. Occasionally, if it's done properly, a case can be made that odd placement conveys the sense that there's something else outside the pictures boundaries and it makes the image seem larger.

In this case, the "face" of building (and the tallest segment) is next to the edge. IMO it gives both a cramped and somewhat uninteresting image.

Since we have color (vs B&W), we also have the brightest - and lightest value - color, i.e., yellow, crammed down in the lower left corner. The larger red mass loses interest and the eye is pulled to the much smaller, but visually more interesting, small yellow building.


I think the photograph presents a palette of beautiful colours and a good profile of a handsome building. One can always over-analyze things.

I don't know if you have photographed in India or any third-world countries. Often, the most beautiful things are juxtaposed with the most butt-ugly objects. Often, the background is awful. Often, you have to make do with the less-than-optimal lighting situations or orientation. There are moving parts, too, over which you have little control - carts, cars, vehicles, people etc. Often, you have to pray that all the stars align just so that you can get a shot.

In the current situation, I had unsavory objects behind the building to the right, and a car was parked in front of the entrance. Hence the tight crop. At any rate, I look upon this composition as documentation of a heritage building.

ps: I could have photoshopped out the lamp post. Perhaps I would if I were making a print.







Nov 23, 2009 at 03:06 PM
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Rajan Parrikar wrote:
jamesf99 wrote:
I guess everyone has their own opinion, but here goes...

While I wouldn't call it "unsettling", I would call it less than optimal from a composition standpoint. I realize that sometimes these things can't be helped and while there's a sense of gestalt you feel when actually present, it doesn't always translate to the image. I think we've all had this experience more often than not.

The image, comprising two buildings, a partial sky, and no people, presents a few problems. It illustrates the same effect as when a person is too close to the border and facing away. They're in effect, leaving the picture or at least pushing the "interest" into a very small area. Occasionally, if it's done properly, a case can be made that odd placement conveys the sense that there's something else outside the pictures boundaries and it makes the image seem larger.

In this case, the "face" of building (and the tallest segment) is next to the edge. IMO it gives both a cramped and somewhat uninteresting image.

Since we have color (vs B&W), we also have the brightest - and lightest value - color, i.e., yellow, crammed down in the lower left corner. The larger red mass loses interest and the eye is pulled to the much smaller, but visually more interesting, small yellow building.


I don't know if you have photographed in India or any third-world countries. Often, the most beautiful things are juxtaposed with the most butt-ugly objects. Often, the background is awful. Often, you have to make do with the less-than-optimal lighting.


I'm not over analyzing anything. I responded to a comment that's all. I also understand the "classical" rules of composition, but that doesn't mean they can or should always be observed.

As for photographing in India, no I never have but it's high on my list. As for 3rd world countries, yes, several. if you read my post again, I acknowledge that you can't control everything and you have to take what's there sometimes. That doesn't change compositional rules (adhered to or broken) and it doesn't make a snapshot a great photo. if you like/love, then that's what's important. I have many shots that others may not appreciate, but they're evocative of something larger not conveyed by the image alone.




Nov 23, 2009 at 08:12 PM
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John Mills wrote:
I would disagree Will the 17mm is the best lens I have ever used. If you are an architectural photographer then it is worth every dollar spent. Just like you are with the 400 f2.8 I would never think that lens is worth the money and that is certainly a lot more than the 17mm. It all depends on what you shoot, and the type of work that you shoot there is no use for an architectural lens.


+1 to a point.

For me the 24 TS-E 2 is best. When wider than the 24 is a must, then the 17 TS-E is the best.

Yes, they're both a lot of money, but you do get what you pay for. IMHO

Peter

Architectural Photography by Peter Montanti, www.mountainphotographics.com

Nov 23, 2009 at 09:13 PM




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