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p.1 #1 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


Hello,

I am looking to purchase a relatively small and lightweight travel tripod+head. This will be for a Canon 40D + EF 24-105mm f/4L setup. I have narrowed my choices down to the following:

Manfrotto 7302YB Aluminum with Ball Head = $115

or

Smith Victor CF300 Carbon Fiber with Ball Head = $180

My budget is around $120-180.

I realize that carbon fiber is preferred to aluminum. Both tripods have 4 leg sections. The Manfrotto supports a maximum load of 7.72 lbs while the Smith Victor supports 8.8 lbs. Also, the Smith Victor ends to 64" while the Manfrotto has a maximum height of 56." Not sure how much of an advantage this will be, but the Manfrotto does have an advantage in terms of folded length - 20" versus 24.7" for the Smith Victor.

Thanks for the help/advice.



Nov 15, 2009 at 02:12 AM
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p.1 #2 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


keep looking and saving

with those current specs you will be at the end of their limits in no time. just start thinking about a reasonable tele



Nov 15, 2009 at 09:46 AM
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p.1 #3 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


feisol and be done with it



Nov 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM
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p.1 #4 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


I agree - feisol.


Nov 15, 2009 at 11:31 AM
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p.1 #5 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


Consider buying a used one too...that will give you a more more bang for the buck.


Nov 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM
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p.1 #6 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


Take a close look at the weight savings between aluminum and carbon fiber with these smaller tripods. Usually there isn't very much. The bigger tripods, yes. A short tripod will drive you crazy as you hunch over to use it. The SV tripod achieves height by raising up a column. That's not very sturdy in practice. I agree with the others about keep looking. I've come to think that for many kinds of photos, the tripod AND ballhead are the most important thing for sharp photos. I've heard good things about Fiesol, but after buying about five different tripods I finally spent the money on Gitzo cf and first class ballhead. That was seven years ago and I've come to think it was the smartest money I"ve ever spent on photo gear.

I totally agree with the idea of buying a used one. Mine's not for sale and might not be in my lifetime.


Kent in SD



Nov 15, 2009 at 01:27 PM
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p.1 #7 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


sjms wrote:
keep looking and saving

with those current specs you will be at the end of their limits in no time. just start thinking about a reasonable tele


He's talking about a light travel outfit, not some big game safari outfit. Worse thing you can do is get something too large and it will stay at home when you travel.



Nov 15, 2009 at 02:47 PM
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chez wrote:
He's talking about a light travel outfit, not some big game safari outfit. Worse thing you can do is get something too large and it will stay at home when you travel.


Agreed! When I think of a travel tripod, I think of light weight, yet sturdy construction, as the first priority. Who cares if I have to hunch over, or if it's not rock solid, or can support a 1Ds3 + EF 400/2.8L IS? I'm not carrying 40 lbs. of gear when I travel.

I just wish I hadn't wasted money on those Gorillapods. Those things are a joke. I bought one for my DSLR and now the only thing it's good for is off-camera flash. Bought a real carbon fiber tripod. Under 2 pounds with a ballhead. So light, it goes anywhere my camera can go. Is it a studio pod? No. But for a travel tripod, you cannot beat it.



Nov 15, 2009 at 03:02 PM
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p.1 #9 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


when i think of a travel tripod i think of one that is versatile in all situations. this then is a balance act between weight and usablity. i find that most "travel" tripods are so limited that it makes them "closet clutter" real fast.


Nov 15, 2009 at 03:38 PM
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p.1 #10 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


chez wrote:
He's talking about a light travel outfit, not some big game safari outfit. Worse thing you can do is get something too large and it will stay at home when you travel.


Exactly my concern.



Nov 15, 2009 at 04:05 PM
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sjms wrote:
when i think of a travel tripod i think of one that is versatile in all situations. this then is a balance act between weight and usablity. i find that most "travel" tripods are so limited that it makes them "closet clutter" real fast.


What situations are you talking about. The OP is travelling with a 40D and a 24-105 lens. He is not carrying a 400 2.8 bazooka.



Nov 15, 2009 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #12 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


For folded length, remember to add in the length of the ballhead. Between these two tripods, that extra 5" is big if you travel with carry-ons.


Nov 15, 2009 at 04:47 PM
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p.1 #13 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


greeneggs wrote:
For folded length, remember to add in the length of the ballhead. Between these two tripods, that extra 5" is big if you travel with carry-ons.


I believe the folded length is with the head.



Nov 15, 2009 at 07:05 PM
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p.1 #14 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


Now I'm considering something that is more expensive but may be worthwhile (and of higher quality)

Manfrotto 190XB Legs (3-section) + Manfrotto 486RC2 Ball Head

Legs = $130
Head = $60
Total = $190

What do you guys think? I presume its superior to the Manfrotto 7302YB I was considering earlier.

Also, do you think its worth it to pay $15 more to get the 190XPROB with the horizontal center column?



Nov 15, 2009 at 08:07 PM
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p.1 #15 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


Can't comment on the one show but will say that center cols are not very steady if that is important to you. I take them out and replace with a Markins tripod base. Also have to say that tripods that are too short a def not something I want, been there and not ever again. Leaning over all the time, eye to the camera, composing, etc. is really a pain.

Flip locks, yuck. However that brand seems to be popular in monopods anyway. I have some of thier higher end light stands, they are good stuff. No flip lock on those tho.

Did you check out Fiesol? YMMV



Nov 15, 2009 at 08:54 PM
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p.1 #16 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


Read this:

http://www.bythom.com/support.htm



Nov 16, 2009 at 12:10 AM
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p.1 #17 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


Now I've narrowed it down and need help deciding between the following legs:

Manfrotto 055XPROB - 25.8" folded - supports 15.4 lbs - $145

Manfrotto 055XB - 24" folded - supports 15.4lbs - $145

Manfrotto 190XPROB - 22.5" folded - supports 11 lbs - $145

Manfrotto 190XB - 20.9" folded - supports 11 lbs - $130

I'm mostly concerned about the folded length because I travel with this tripod. While the 055XPROB is the best value and quality of the 3, I'm concerned that 25.8" + 4" (head) will be too large to travel with.



Nov 16, 2009 at 12:44 AM
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p.1 #18 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


chez wrote:
What situations are you talking about. The OP is travelling with a 40D and a 24-105 lens. He is not carrying a 400 2.8 bazooka.


i don't carry a 400/2.8 around too often traveling. a 300/2.8 occasionally but rarely. i own 2 sets of legs as of the moment, and their capabilities overlap. i play the what if scenerio. i have this gear now. what will i have later. what do i need to cover not just today but tomorrow too. i currently have 2 really good tripods that do pretty much everything i need them to do where others have 5 or 6 mediocre or too limited ones like golf clubs.

the two becomes three at the end of the week and then after a short time two again when one is sold.

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Nov 16, 2009 at 07:14 AM
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p.1 #19 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


manfrotto 190mf4


Nov 16, 2009 at 08:38 AM
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p.1 #20 · Help Decide Between 2 Tripods


the manfrotto 190s are not very tall - stick with the 055s



Nov 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM
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