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rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #1 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Just picked up a 7d Saturday to play with until MkIV arrives. Not great, but decent at 6400 ISO if making small print? Nov 10, 2009 at 05:39 AM

dolina Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #2 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives What previous body did you use before you got your 7d? Nov 10, 2009 at 06:56 AM

rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #3 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Last year Nikon D3. Regards. Greg Nov 10, 2009 at 01:30 PM

P Alesse Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #4 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives You went from a D3 to a 7D Okay, well, that's going to need an explanation I think. Nov 10, 2009 at 10:17 PM

rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #5 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Well, really planned on going from D3 to MkIV, but also liked the idea of having a 1.6 crop with the 300 f2.8 with 1.4 extender for wildlife. So, when some reviews started to surface from users, I thought I would give it a whirl. This is a hobby for me, and in that context I enjoy trying out new things and if they don't pan out, it is not a huge deal. The pros here have to know what will work for them and what will pay the bills, so when they make a change I can only imagine that it is a huge deal! I know when I am on the job, mistakes just can't be made. But when I am here, my mess ups are acceptable to me :-). Hopefully though, the 7D will provide me some nice wildlife images for my basement and the MkIV will make me some special memories of this season. While Nikon has watched us make 2 state appearances in a row, I am hoping Canon will watch us go all the way Regards, Greg Nov 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM

PShizzy Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #6 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives I can see his point. If I shot daytime and a camera had the improved AF, I could enjoy using a 1.6x crop camera on my old 400 2.8. And when I shoot daytime football (2 games this season, which is a lot), I use the D300 and 200-400, great combo. What I'd love to see? A comparison of images shot at 6400 between a 7D and a D3. I doubt the extra mp makes a difference when its all resized down, but if it was close enough, that would be interesting. And of course, the million dollar question: How is the Mk IV gonna act. I could see myself with at least one, since I do have a video background. Nov 11, 2009 at 12:36 AM

ian408 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #7 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives P Alesse wrote: You went from a D3 to a 7D Okay, well, that's going to need an explanation I think. I was wondering the same. The D3 at hi ISO is much better. Nov 11, 2009 at 12:37 AM

ian408 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #8 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives The other question I'd ask about the mkiv is whether or not you'll wait until it's been out for a while. I know for me, I wouldn't buy the first one after the mkiii debacle (I'll happily let someone else test drive this time ). Nov 11, 2009 at 12:40 AM

Bob Cox Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #9 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Not exactly apples to apples but check out Mike's 6400 cheer shots in this thread. http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/834005 Nov 11, 2009 at 12:47 AM

rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #10 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Yes, the D3 is much better no doubt. I really just posted to try to give others more information when trying to fulfill their needs. I was surprised at the performance of the 7, just in that I was expecting worse from a 1.6 crop body. Having said that, I will not be using one in the gyms I am stuck shooting BB But, I do think it will be a great backpack body when I want the " extra reach" the 1.6 can provide. Regards, Greg Nov 11, 2009 at 01:26 AM

musclepics Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #11 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives P Alesse wrote: You went from a D3 to a 7D Okay, well, that's going to need an explanation I think. A few people have gone from the 1D3 to the 7D so that's about the same difference. Nov 11, 2009 at 01:28 AM

rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #12 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Those shots(Mike's) to me look great for a 1.6 crop body!! The shot I took was on a field that was just horrible, with lighting changing from bad, to really bad from spot to spot on the field. But, I had owned the body for about 72 hours and thought it would be fun to try out as our local team played their second round game of state. Unfortunately, I will not get to try it for round 3, as we went down to the defending state champs 17-7. Anyway, hope all this info is helpful to someone out there. Regards, Greg PS: I bet I can make an 8x10 on the Epson 3800 that Mom and Dad would love! They are not near as worried about the pixels as we are . While this camera or that photographer could do much better, for small town America this is often the only chance for family and friends to have something on the wall. Nov 11, 2009 at 01:32 AM

msauk Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #13 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives that image looks to be quite underexposed which makes the noise look worse. In my testing 6400 iso is very usable and print worthy. Nov 11, 2009 at 01:44 AM

rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #14 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Yes sir, I agree. Underexposed and with a bit of motion blur. My only thought in this situation was to jump up ISO another stop, but being first night out I really did not trust the output above 6400. Would you have jumped the ISO one more stop? My 300 was already at 2.8 and I did not feel I could leave the shutter open any longer and have any hopes of freezing the action. Thanks for your thoughts. Greg Nov 11, 2009 at 03:03 AM

Awasos23 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #15 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives They both look good to me. I seriously wonder why people fuss, it all has less grain then P3200. Nov 11, 2009 at 04:01 AM

davis smith Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #16 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives The football shot is too grainy to be a keeper for me. And while the cheer shots in the other thread are nice, the skin tones look unusual. msauk's image is great, but I also realize he didn't have to freeze any action. I shoot a 20D and even 800 is sometimes questionable. If I buy a new camera at some point will the 7D be a noticeable upgrade or should I look at something used. While I am an enthusiast who sometimes uses the camera to make money I'm not ready to go with something for just sports or just portraits - I'd like the flexibility to continue shooting a little bit of everything. Thanks for your help. Nov 11, 2009 at 04:47 AM

msauk Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #17 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives rxgolf wrote: Yes sir, I agree. Underexposed and with a bit of motion blur. My only thought in this situation was to jump up ISO another stop, but being first night out I really did not trust the output above 6400. Would you have jumped the ISO one more stop? My 300 was already at 2.8 and I did not feel I could leave the shutter open any longer and have any hopes of freezing the action. Thanks for your thoughts. Greg I think at some point you will have to decide, get a proper exposure or stop action. I would have chosen the proper exposure and moved down to 1/640th or 1/500th which should be just fine for most shots. Move to more in front of the player where motion is not as extreme as a side shot would be. Nothing wrong with have some motion in the image especially in the extremities (sp?) Nov 11, 2009 at 10:03 PM

PierreB Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #18 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives msauk wrote: rxgolf wrote: Yes sir, I agree. Underexposed and with a bit of motion blur. My only thought in this situation was to jump up ISO another stop, but being first night out I really did not trust the output above 6400. Would you have jumped the ISO one more stop? My 300 was already at 2.8 and I did not feel I could leave the shutter open any longer and have any hopes of freezing the action. Thanks for your thoughts. Greg I think at some point you will have to decide, get a proper exposure or stop action. I would have chosen the proper exposure and moved down to 1/640th or 1/500th which should be just fine for most shots. Move to more in front of the player where motion is not as extreme as a side shot would be. Nothing wrong with have some motion in the image especially in the extremities (sp?) I agree, a small amount of motion blur does not harm the shot as long as the focal point is sharp. In fact, in many sports shots it is desirable IMO. Nov 11, 2009 at 10:51 PM

rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #19 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Thanks guys for the tips. I really appreciate the chance to learn from those more accomplished in this arena! Regards, Greg Nov 12, 2009 at 03:10 AM

clarence3 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #20 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives I love having ISO 6400, even on the lowly Rebel T1i... I can only imagine what the 7D and 1D Mk4 can do. Nov 12, 2009 at 03:47 AM

rxgolf Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #21 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives I don't think you need either cause these look great :-)) Nov 12, 2009 at 05:52 PM

gman1339 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #22 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives I bought the D700 so I didn't have to worry about what ISO I use. This was shot at ISO 9600 with no noise reduction. Edited on Nov 14, 2009 at 02:29 AM · View previous versions Nov 14, 2009 at 01:37 AM

msauk Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #23 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives Cameras these days are just wonderful! It is so nice to be able to use such high ISO's and still be able to print. Just imagine when that black silicone comes out for cameras and you can ISO 200000 and have zero noise Nov 14, 2009 at 01:45 AM

brent f Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #24 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives msauk wrote: Cameras these days are just wonderful! It is so nice to be able to use such high ISO's and still be able to print. Just imagine when that black silicone comes out for cameras and you can ISO 200000 and have zero noise And the camera will cost less than $1,000 Nov 14, 2009 at 03:55 AM

Drayken Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #25 · 7D @6400 until Mk IV arrives davis smith wrote: The football shot is too grainy to be a keeper for me. And while the cheer shots in the other thread are nice, the skin tones look unusual. msauk's image is great, but I also realize he didn't have to freeze any action. I shoot a 20D and even 800 is sometimes questionable. If I buy a new camera at some point will the 7D be a noticeable upgrade or should I look at something used. While I am an enthusiast who sometimes uses the camera to make money I'm not ready to go with something for just sports or just portraits - I'd like the flexibility to continue shooting a little bit of everything. Thanks for your help. I just went from a 20D to a 7D. I see a huge difference. I also did not like ISO 800 on the 20D. The tracking between the two is like night and day too. I feel more comfortable using higher ISO on the 7D. I do have some advise for you though. Do not dwell on peeping at 100%. I thought I saw more noise than what I should, but once sized correctly, it is pretty clean. And you can crop a huge amount, before you get to the size of the 20D files. Nov 14, 2009 at 04:56 AM

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