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p.1 #1 · The urge to cheat can be overpowering for some

http://www.birdphotographers.net/forums/showthread.php?p=377110#post377110

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/inside-outside/2009/nov/07/the-urge-to-cheat-can-be-overpowering-for-some/

http://refugeassociation.org/new-pdf...ud_Release.pdf

Nov 08, 2009 at 01:33 PM

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p.1 #2 · The urge to cheat can be overpowering for some

Hello, I don't really have time to read all the links, but tell us your thoughts?
As far as cheating, I have experienced a disqualified contest winner, because I cloned out a telephone wire, lolol

The silly thing is, where do you draw the line? lol, Arthur Morris was the one who chose my photo as the winner, and he's the master of cloning. He teaches it! So the guy in the magazine said, they allow twig cloning but not wires . hahahah can you believe this theory

. And I didn't even know it was a contest, I thought I was just contributing a photo of a hawk the the magazine had not gotten a photo of yet! The guy treated me like I was a cheater and a low life. What a jerk!

The thing is, I KNOW people who manipulate all their photos. My feelings are as long as you are not altering the colors and habitat of the wildlife, then you aren't misrepresenting the species.

And the line should be drawn at people bating wildlife. I don't know how anyone can feel good about that shot.

Nov 08, 2009 at 05:25 PM

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p.1 #3 · The urge to cheat can be overpowering for some

Linda, it's really simple, you follow the rules of the contest you enter--if you don't, then you're a cheater.

As far as your strong views on baiting, so I take it you think that anyone who has a bird feeder and takes shots of birds attracted to it is some kind of miscreant? That's pretty strong for someone who admits to 'bending the rules', dontcha think?

Nov 08, 2009 at 11:28 PM

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p.1 #4 · The urge to cheat can be overpowering for some

Linda a line is drawn on baiting of certain birds (Raptors) a very long time ago. Baiting is used by authorized persons only when trying to get info on things like migration and locations and adding State & Federal bands and maybe a satellite transmitter to learn of their travel.. It is illegal for the public to bait and trap for any reason due to the many cases of poisoning that take place to raptors that will feed on dead meat in the winter or if hungry enough. The second worse part about feeding birds in your back door yard is you will draw the Cooper and Sharp-shined Hawks for their meal and the very first worse thing is if you live in bear country you will draw the black bear to your feeders and he is like the hawks protected by law. These laws apply to the lower 48 States and awhile back Homer Alaska added it to their law with a ten year exemption to the eagle lady ( Jeane Keene in Homer). After her death they extended it to I think her son.
So even though you think it would be OK for a photo, no it is not for raptors no matter what the contest rule says. I suggest if you enter a contest than follow the rules or do not enter the photo.
Lou
PS I have photographed many poisoned bald eagles for evidence when they were brought into the Delaware Valley Raptor Center for treatment as I did for shooting also.

Nov 09, 2009 at 03:25 PM


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