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p.1 #1 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Hey everyone,

I'm curious to hear from anyone using the Elinchrom BXRi 500s, I currently shoot with white lighting x1600s, and while they're fine for most applications, I desperately miss having an audible recycle beep and having digital controls.

I'm thinking of switching over to that setup because cost-wise I could make it a fairly even swap.

Anyone by chance have comparisons between the two?

Nov 07, 2009 at 07:41 AM

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p.1 #2 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

I'm surprised to have not gotten one response on this matter, no one uses either the WL x1600 or the BXRi 500?

Dec 22, 2009 at 12:28 AM

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p.1 #3 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Haven't used the WL1600 myself. I've got a 500 BXRi though and it is an excellent unit. In addition to the beep it has a lot of other features, such as built in Skyport, which makes it very attractive. In some ways they are similar to the 400BX's (rock solid studio strobes) with a lot more feature set.

Good luck.

Dec 22, 2009 at 02:13 AM

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p.1 #4 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

I have RX-600's, BX 400's, and D-Lite 2's and once you go with digital controls and more accurate exposure adjustment you'll never go back. And as Carmen says, you'll love the internal Skyport.

Dec 22, 2009 at 02:37 AM

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p.1 #5 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Cool thanks guys. I appreciate the info.

Dec 22, 2009 at 07:53 AM

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p.1 #6 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

I've got a WL 1600 and two WL800s. I don't find that I shoot faster than one frame every two - three seconds, and never have to worry about recycle time. Is hearing the recycle beep that big a deal? I wear hearing aids too so I probably wouldn't hear the beep even if there was one, but that's just me.

David

Dec 25, 2009 at 02:43 PM

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p.1 #7 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

The White Lightning units will fire before they are fully recharged, making the lack of audible recycle something of a pain. I like my X3200s, but if I used them on location more I'd probably pop for Elinchroms.

Dec 27, 2009 at 05:12 PM

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p.1 #8 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

There used to be a third party recycle beeper that you could use with any AC powered strobe. You plug the beeper into the AC outlet and then plug the strobe into it. It beeps when the strobe stops drawing juice.

It was called a Venca Beep. Venca is no longer in business and I don't think anyone else makes something like this.

I don't see why another company couldn't make something similar. (Mr. Buff?)

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Dec 27, 2009 at 08:18 PM

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p.1 #9 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

ericvgill wrote:
The White Lightning units will fire before they are fully recharged, making the lack of audible recycle something of a pain. I like my X3200s, but if I used them on location more I'd probably pop for Elinchroms.

Yep, this has been a concern of mine. I forget to time the recycle sometimes and I'll get an off exposure, and of course that will be one of the killer shots! haha.

They're good lights, but I think I'm ready to try something new.

Dec 27, 2009 at 08:22 PM

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p.1 #10 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Well I'm hopefully going to be ordering the BXRi lights in about a month.

The kit comes with two softboxes, and small reflectors, do you guys have any recommendations for other modifiers? I really enjoyed the beauty dish though I probably used soft-boxes the most.

Am I going to be required to use elinchrom modifiers? Will photoflex products work?

Any tips and advice will be appreciated.

Dec 31, 2009 at 06:40 AM

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p.1 #11 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

1) Sizeable octobox.

2) Larger Softboxes (presumably, you're getting the To Go kit).

http://www.photoflex.com/Photoflex_Products/Strobe_Connector_9014ELR_for_Elinchrom/index.html

Most modifier companies have something similar, or a third party makes one.

Dec 31, 2009 at 03:55 PM

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p.1 #12 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Yes I will be getting the to-go kit with the 26" square softboxes. thank you for your suggestions I'll look into those!

Jan 01, 2010 at 07:37 PM

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p.1 #13 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Well I wound up ordering the lights a bit sooner than expected. (wanted to take advantage of the price-break from B&H)

I'm gonna get a couple large umbrellas (60") from photoflex, any objections to those?

Jan 05, 2010 at 02:35 AM

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p.1 #14 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

AbramG wrote:
Well I wound up ordering the lights a bit sooner than expected. (wanted to take advantage of the price-break from B&H)

I'm gonna get a couple large umbrellas (60") from photoflex, any objections to those?

Unless things have changed recently ...

The umbrella fitting in the center of Elinchrom lights accepts a 7mm umbrella shaft.
Photoflex umbrellas have 8mm shafts. You can use them with Elinchrom lights, but they need to be attached below the light to the swivel fitting, and they are a lot less convenient to use. You might want to stick with Elinchrom umbrellas (or with some other brand that uses 7mm shafts).

Jan 05, 2010 at 02:45 AM

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p.1 #15 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Ah! Well that's incredibly useful information thank you! I was not even aware of that.

I will look into elinchroms offerings then.

EDIT: The only problem I can see is that their largest umbrellas is 41", I may look into getting the Photek Softlighter II then since it comes in a 60" and seems to be ideal for my purpose.

Jan 05, 2010 at 03:59 AM

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p.1 #16 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

The 7mm umbrella fitting is one of the few things about Elinchrom that I don't like. A lot of us found out the hard way that the more common 8mm shafts don't fit, and I'm happy to have saved you a bit of aggravation.

Jan 05, 2010 at 04:10 AM

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p.1 #17 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Yeah that is a little bit of a disappointment, but I found out that Profoto does the same thing with their umbrella mounts. Go figure.

Though personally, if that's the only thing wrong with the lights, I'm completely fine with that. I can adapt.

Jan 05, 2010 at 04:54 PM

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p.1 #18 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

Well I received the kit today, and was a little bummed out to find out they do not come with reflectors, my own fault, I should have read the listing better.

What I was bothered even more about was the fact I did not receive power cables in the box either. Somehow from B&H I got the one box that was missing power cables.

What a massive let-down! I've been waiting all week to try the lights out, got them today and I still can't use them lol.

I hope B&H makes this right without me having to ship everything back.

Jan 09, 2010 at 06:49 AM

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p.1 #19 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

the power cables are most likely std. IEC style which are widely available.

Jan 09, 2010 at 12:30 PM

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p.1 #20 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

I agree with you, but the manual explicitly says in bold letters not to use any cable but the supplied one, I guess it has some kind of special fuse in there so you don't blow the thing up on accident.

I'd rather not take my chances right now lol.

Jan 09, 2010 at 05:07 PM

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p.1 #21 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

I am considering the same lights, I have had WL & AB and they are great but do have some lacking features.

I plan to get a BXRI500 and 250 and then their Beauty Dish and a nice big softbox. The Togo kit is nice but I dont need stands and the 26" softboxes are really too small so I will just order the pieces I need separately.

anyways curious to hear your review

Jan 10, 2010 at 12:16 AM

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p.1 #22 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

AbramG wrote:
I agree with you, but the manual explicitly says in bold letters not to use any cable but the supplied one, I guess it has some kind of special fuse in there so you don't blow the thing up on accident.

I'd rather not take my chances right now lol.

Elinchrom seems to like to sell their own proprietary accessories . . like non standard 7mm umbrella, etc. RX600 and D Lite uses the same power cable as any other light - standard IEC computer style cable - international standard. I'd say they are just trying to make extra income. But, then again, they may indeed have put the fuse in the cable . . . who knows. But that would be contrary to IEC rules unless they also use a different AC socket too,

Jan 10, 2010 at 01:15 AM

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p.1 #23 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

AbramG wrote:
Yeah that is a little bit of a disappointment, but I found out that Profoto does the same thing with their umbrella mounts. Go figure.

Though personally, if that's the only thing wrong with the lights, I'm completely fine with that. I can adapt.

... but I found out that Profoto does the same thing with their umbrella mounts. Where did you find out this bit of misinformation

Not from a Profoto user that's for sure.

Here's a Profoto AcuteB head with a small (42") PCB PLM. Also note that the umbrella shaft run through the head, just like an Elinchrom.

Jan 10, 2010 at 01:41 AM

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p.1 #24 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

There are not any fuses in the power cables for Elinchrom lights. The fuses are in the body of the strobe. Standard power cables will work just fine.

Mark

Jan 10, 2010 at 05:49 AM

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p.1 #25 · BXRI 500 vs WL x1600?

c.d.embrey wrote:
AbramG wrote:
Yeah that is a little bit of a disappointment, but I found out that Profoto does the same thing with their umbrella mounts. Go figure.

Though personally, if that's the only thing wrong with the lights, I'm completely fine with that. I can adapt.

... but I found out that Profoto does the same thing with their umbrella mounts. Where did you find out this bit of misinformation

Not from a Profoto user that's for sure.

Here's a Profoto AcuteB head with a small (42") PCB PLM. Also note that the umbrella shaft run through the head, just like an Elinchrom.

I've used several types of Profoto Kits myself (never an owner, but when I was in school I used the Acute and the 7B packs all the time)

I could be wrong but I recall having to use different umbrellas, maybe it's just the older packs that had a requirement for a 7mm umbrella? Not sure.

Jan 11, 2010 at 10:54 PM


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