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p.6 #1 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

chez wrote:
These types of threads always resort to personal attacks when things get heated. There is a whole world out there outside this forum. Maybe some of you should discover it before it is too late.

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In fact, this very topic is quickly becoming notorious for this sort of thing. In a recent thread on this topic elsewhere someone who didn't like the fact that I can and do produce excellent prints from the 5D2 on regular basis that are unaffected by this "issue," began a series of replies by informing me that "I don't understand exposure" and so forth.

Ah, yes.

Any time that a forum poster catches himself/herself starting a reply with an insult to the previous poster, it is time to stop and ask whether this is the best approach. Sit and stare at the proposed post for a few minutes. Maybe show it to a friend. (Spouses are often helpful in this regard - rolled eyes will often let you know what your message looks like to others. ;-)

(I'll admit in advance that I've occasionally made this error and then regretted it - sometimes because I simply posted too quickly. On a few occasions I've later posted an apology in the thread.)

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Nov 08, 2009 at 07:30 PM

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p.6 #2 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

Chez, not sure if this can be said without being dog piled, but something I've noticed during my short stint with a camera. A lot of Nikon users tend to be more of the purist sort, with a passion for photography, these people are so easy to get along with. And a lot of Canon users tend to have alpha male syndrome, not as easy to get along with. You don't see as many cranky comments like the above over on the dark side.

Some of this reminds me of my history of shopping at Fry's Electronics. I hated that place when I was first starting with computers. I had all sort of problems, bad parts, trouble returning/exchanging items, very frustrating. As I became more familiar/experienced/educated, those problems seem to have disappeared.

Nov 08, 2009 at 07:36 PM

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p.6 #3 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

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Chez, not sure if this can be said without being dog piled, but something I've noticed during my short stint with a camera. A lot of Nikon users tend to be more of the purist sort, with a passion for photography, these people are so easy to get along with. And a lot of Canon users tend to have alpha male syndrome, not as easy to get along with. You don't see as many cranky comments like the above over on the dark side.

This is so ridiculously anecdotal it hurts my head. You can't be serious with this.

Nov 08, 2009 at 09:47 PM

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p.6 #4 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

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A lot of Nikon users tend to be more of the purist sort, with a passion for photography, these people are so easy to get along with. And a lot of Canon users tend to have alpha male syndrome, not as easy to get along with.

It is funny to swap the brand names in your comment.

A lot of Canon users tend to be more of the purist sort, with a passion for photography, these people are so easy to get along with. And a lot of Nikon users tend to have alpha male syndrome, not as easy to get along with.

And, in the end, both generalizations are true, right? :-)

Nov 08, 2009 at 09:56 PM

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p.6 #5 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

I see you feel like supporting my experience further. As absurd as it may seem to you, that's my experience. You can't change my experience, or change my perception of it. The only thing you can do is say that yours is different, and I have absolutely no issues with it. I was called an anti-semite for being annoyed that B&H was closed for all their holidays, so your reaction does absolutely nothing to make me question myself. The point I'm making to Chez, and not you, is to consider the source of the message.

Cheers.

Nov 08, 2009 at 10:01 PM

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p.6 #6 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

I know Nikon and Canon (and other brand) shooters who are really great people and really great photographers - that's all I'm saying.

Take care,

Dan

Nov 08, 2009 at 11:44 PM

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p.6 #7 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

I just took delivery of a 1D Mark III today. Oh. My. God. I thought I'd to some "underexposed ISO 100 shots". You can push 2, 3 stops whatever, and there is like ZERO noise. Who says the 5D2 is better than the 1D3 for noise?

Nov 09, 2009 at 02:30 AM

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p.6 #8 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

Ah yes, back on topic, well done.

Please post some samples if you have the time. I've seen some great high iso from the 1d3, has there been a 1d3/1ds3/5d2/7d iso comparison in a single location yet? I don't imagine there's too many people who happen to have all these bodies at once, but you never know!

Nov 09, 2009 at 02:37 AM

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p.6 #9 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

Will do at once!

Nov 09, 2009 at 03:56 AM

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p.6 #10 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

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.... I use a 5d classic now and I shoot mostly landscapes and nature. I use ND grads and blends, but I also often push the shadows in PP as well. Thus, if this really problem showed up in my images with a 5DII then it would be an issue for me. I used a 2 stop ND grad with in this shot, but I also pushed the shadows on the rock in the foreground without fear with my 5d classic. Would this be an issue with the 5dII?

Hard to say for sure without knowing how much "push" we're talking about. But, overall ... and in general ... I'd say no problem.

In the shot below, the foreground (the side of the barn on the right) was very, very dark and near black for the most part. I pushed the shadow control in DPP then selectively brightened the area in Photoshop. Shot at ISO 400 w/24-105 f/4L.

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That's good enough for my uses. Thanks for posting.

Nov 09, 2009 at 01:42 PM

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p.6 #11 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

michael49 wrote:
That's good enough for my uses. Thanks for posting.

You might want to take a look here:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/833478

Nov 09, 2009 at 01:50 PM


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