fredmiranda.com
Login

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
FM Forum Rules
Wedding Resource List
  

FM Forums | Wedding Photographer | Join Upload & Sell

1              3       end
  

Archive 2009 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !

  
 
lovinglife
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #1 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Personally -

I loved the 14-24mm lens, when I used to have a D700.
But I think its definitely a specialty lens which I didn't use too much, mostly due to its size.

currently, I use the 24L II much more often due to the smaller size.
When I had the 14-24mm I was usually on the 24mm end 90 percent of the time.

But again, if u need the extreme wide angle, its the best.

The ideal lens on the Nikon lineup would be the 28mm /1.4 in my opinion - but then again, its very expensive.



Nov 02, 2009 at 03:49 PM
Evan Baines
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #2 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


16mm full frame:
http://www.onatuesday.com/photography/jjw/jjw-15.jpg

UWA at weddings can have its uses.



Nov 02, 2009 at 04:22 PM
Daan B
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #3 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Victor S wrote:
Daan, I think you misunderstand the use of wideangle here. I used to have the same wrong idea about the wideangle use... Anyways, long story short, if you used other FL under those conditions you wouldn't have the same amount of clouds and sky in the background. It's not about fitting the couple in the frame, it's about how much background you can fit while still having the couple the size you want.
I hope it makes sense!


What I meant... If I shoot a subject with BG at 24mm... and zoom in to 35mm and back off a little, I get the exact same framing (with subject and BG equally sized). The reverse is also true. So, if that shot was done at 14mm, and I would have room to manouvre backwards, I could use the 24mm FL to get roughly the same framing (with subject and BG equally sized). Hope this makes sense too

I realize that when the differences between FL's become more extreme, this will have a more pronounced effect on how much of the BG will appear in the frame... In other words: the differences will be greater.

Edited on Nov 02, 2009 at 04:36 PM · View previous versions



Nov 02, 2009 at 04:28 PM
Jed Eltom
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #4 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Let's say I return this lens and get the 85mm 1.4, how different is this
lens from say using my 70 - 200 mm f2.8 zoomed to 85mm ? Besides the aperture
difference ofcourse.

I think I'll just gain some sharpness, and lose a lot of weight. Is the bokeh really
worth the $1000 ?



Nov 02, 2009 at 04:29 PM
sboerup
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #5 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


I can count the times I've used a 16mm on a wedding in the past year on one hand. Like Evan said, it has its uses, but for me its limited for sure.

Here are a couple:
16-35 mk2 @ 16mm
http://www.spencerboerup.com/blog/images/posts/1.02.09/Amber.Carraig.Wedding-003.jpg


17-40 @ 17
http://www.spencerboerup.com/blog/images/posts/3.13.09/ATW-079.jpg





Nov 02, 2009 at 04:33 PM
Jed Eltom
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #6 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Wouldn't you need an UWA to do this?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd229/necrovale/untitled2.jpg



Nov 02, 2009 at 04:38 PM
Sam Obeid
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #7 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


There are no rules! Use what works for you...Check out Emin's work for great use of a wide angle..

http://em34.com/Blog/

Edited on Nov 02, 2009 at 11:34 PM · View previous versions



Nov 02, 2009 at 06:12 PM
swim_r
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #8 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


our 14-24 is worth it's weight in gold. We use it almost as much as our 24-70's, and when both of our 24-70's tanked at the last wedding (at the same time, one the zoom froze at about 55 and one the aperture blades got stuck at f/8) we had the 14-24 on one camera, a 50mm on another, and a 70-200 on the third. Oh and you cant beat the flare out of this lens.

We do end up using this a lot at weddings but it sees the bulk of its work commercially.



Nov 02, 2009 at 11:21 PM
sejanus
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #9 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Jed Eltom wrote:
A fellow successful wedding photographer who has been in the business for more
than 8 years told me that you will never need anything wider than a 24mm. He
said that for wedding photography purposes, anything wider than 24mm is
uncalled for and is a waste of money that could better be spent on other aspects
of the business.


what a ignorant and close minded outlook! ignore him, develop your own taste in lenses and use what you think suits you.

I've had similar comments thrown my way about the stack of prime lenses in my bag, I just ignore them and keep booking more weddings than they do.




Nov 03, 2009 at 06:43 AM
Scott Clark
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #10 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Lenses are cheap, so you might as well own a lot of them.


Nov 03, 2009 at 07:20 AM
Jed Eltom
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #11 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Lenses are cheap?? !! O.o

I'm not sure what kind of lenses you buy, but
almost every lens I want is $2,000 or more.

I believe this 14-24 can add a uniqueness to my work, and help
me get images that are just impossible with other lenses.

Now I just have to figure out whether I would rather have more
lighting equipment instead.. 1 sb-800 is simply not enough.



Nov 03, 2009 at 12:12 PM
jprezant
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #12 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


14-24 is a sick lens (though I've never used it)...

BUT

I buddies just had their wedding shot by a "friend" and he used
the 14-24 almost exclusively through the day. We're talking
getting ready, ceremony, formals, reception. And about 50%
of the shots were in portrait orientation. Yea...have you seen
what 14mm does to someone in portrait orientation? When
you're a good 5-6 feet away? HORRIBLE. Don't do that



Nov 03, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Jed Eltom
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #13 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Ever since I got it, I've been doing that on purpose for fun.
Zoom out to 14, frame someone's head near the corner of the frame,
and snap. It makes them look like a cross between a conehead and
an alien. It's Hilarious !! I should post some up.



Nov 03, 2009 at 12:40 PM
sharpeshots
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #14 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Jed: post'em!


Nov 03, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Jed Eltom
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #15 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


I'll post them once I get home. I've been preparing some material to post up anyway. I have an engagement to post, and I also have my own honeymoon shots from Aruba. So stay tuned for tonight.


Nov 03, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Scott Clark
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #16 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Jed Eltom wrote:
Lenses are cheap?? !! O.o

I'm not sure what kind of lenses you buy, but
almost every lens I want is $2,000 or more.

I believe this 14-24 can add a uniqueness to my work, and help
me get images that are just impossible with other lenses.

Now I just have to figure out whether I would rather have more
lighting equipment instead.. 1 sb-800 is simply not enough.


.



Nov 03, 2009 at 12:58 PM
ksoze2507
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #17 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Jed Eltom wrote:
Wouldn't you need an UWA to do this?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd229/necrovale/untitled2.jpg



Ed's work always amazes me--no matter how many times I've seen these images.



Nov 03, 2009 at 01:04 PM
thethinkcouch
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #18 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Kit Lens is ALL YOU NEED. TRUST ME.

//ed



Nov 03, 2009 at 01:13 PM
mauriceramirez
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #19 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


...Dudes on Nikon, so in his case any cheap UWA zoom will do. I did have the 14-24 for a year, but preferred the 20mm f2.8 so much more that I just sold it. IMO the 14-24 is too heavy, overbuilt, and just unnecessarily expensive for wedding use. Thing's bloody delicate, too, ya gotta baby it with that bulging front element... Who's got time for that crap?

MAYBE at most get the 17-35. But really the 20 is fine.

I saw Ed using the kit lens on that shot. Funny.



Nov 03, 2009 at 01:22 PM
thethinkcouch
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #20 · Ultra Wide Angle Beast !


i have whit-nee-zes using the kit lens. it's bad-ass. shoot at f/22 and you're gold.

//ed



Nov 03, 2009 at 01:29 PM
1              3       end




FM Forums | Wedding Photographer | Join Upload & Sell

1              3       end
    
 

Welcome back
Log in to your account