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BradTaylor Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #1 · Glamour Shot! Hello, I'm new to the site and even newer to photography. This is my very first glamour shot, and was told this site had some very good photographers with good tips to share. My intent with this shot was to have a very soft, very bright look, with only subtle shadow to define her bone structure and facial features. I'm quite happy with the results and so is my client, but I'm always curious to hear others opinions and any criticism/tips from the pros. Nov 01, 2009 at 07:17 PM

victorXT Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #2 · Glamour Shot! It looks a bit too bright on my screen but it might look great on print. Do you wat to share your lighting setup? The stray hairs are quite distracting. Best to prevent them, but fixable in post. Nov 01, 2009 at 07:28 PM

ht1948 Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #3 · Glamour Shot! Oaa, i love the catch light in the eyes. It does look a little bright on my monitor also Nov 01, 2009 at 07:31 PM

squareeyez Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #4 · Glamour Shot! definitely hot - the light and the girl. I reckon you achieved the brightness you were looking for but I think you also dipped into the 'blown-zone', too. Nov 01, 2009 at 07:36 PM

Steady Hand Offline Buy and Sell: On p.1 #5 · Glamour Shot! Hello Brad, Welcome to this forum. I truly hope you enjoy your time here and post more photos in the future. I have put together some tips that may help you have a better experience here. Follow this link to the topic and then follow the directions in that post. Newbies or New to FM? http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/825552 Have fun, shoot more, post more, learn more! Nov 01, 2009 at 08:35 PM

soupey Offline Buy and Sell: On p.1 #6 · Glamour Shot! didn't know you were on this forum too, as i posted on beyond.ca... agreeing with everyone saying it's too hot, kinda looks like a ring-flash type look... i just ran it through LR really quickly to give it a more contrasty look and to tone down the exposure, couldnt do much about the blown out highlights on her cheeks and forhead, perhaps a raw would've helped out..but here's my 2 mins worth of PP. removed Edited on Nov 01, 2009 at 09:58 PM · View previous versions Nov 01, 2009 at 08:56 PM

Ole Martin Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #7 · Glamour Shot! The last two edits here are extraodrinarily bad. Seriously. Liked the original a lot better. Overexposure can work sometimes. Skin looks better when its bright, the dirt is in the shadows etc. But I think the origian could be taken down a little bit. Not much but a little. Nov 01, 2009 at 09:00 PM

Gene Schilling Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #8 · Glamour Shot! Overexposure is a problem here, but even more so is the flat lighting. The nose gets lost in the face due to lack of shadows. Rather than hitting the model with two lights of equal power on the sides, try a clamshell setup with one light directly above and another (or reflector) below but less power. Nov 01, 2009 at 09:23 PM

BradTaylor Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #9 · Glamour Shot! victorXT wrote: It looks a bit too bright on my screen but it might look great on print. Do you wat to share your lighting setup? The stray hairs are quite distracting. Best to prevent them, but fixable in post. Yeh I agree, the stray hairs need to be touched up. I used two Elinchrom BX 500 Ri's, with two softboxes situated about 45° on either side of her about 4' away. My camera is a 50D and my EF70-200mm f/4L IS lens at 70mm. Nov 01, 2009 at 09:35 PM

BradTaylor Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #10 · Glamour Shot! soupey wrote: agreeing with everyone saying it's too hot, kinda looks like a ring-flash type look... i just ran it through LR really quickly to give it a more contrasty look and to tone down the exposure, couldnt do much about the blown out highlights on her cheeks and forhead, perhaps a raw would've helped out..but here's my 2 mins worth of PP. I don't mind you commenting on my photo, but please don't butcher them and then post them on the internet. I would appreciate if you remove them. Thanks Nov 01, 2009 at 09:41 PM

threeputt Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #11 · Glamour Shot! Brad, I like the pic, I also use the same light set-up you mentioned. As others have mentioned perhaps a bit overexposed but if that was the look your were going for well done. Nov 01, 2009 at 11:07 PM

bigbee Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #12 · Glamour Shot! This is a great start, but your lights were equal in power and too low, resulting in unattractive upward nose shadows on both sides of her face. I agree that clamshell would have been best, but you could also try to get the key up higher and the fill more on axis. Exposure is a matter of taste, depending on the look you were going for. Nov 02, 2009 at 04:33 AM

Saint Sigma Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #13 · Glamour Shot! her face is pretty shiny and is a bit paler than the rest of her skin. Just something that caught my eye. Nov 02, 2009 at 04:58 AM

cm0rris0n Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #14 · Glamour Shot! I find the eyes overly processed ... I would have backed off on the opacity some more when doing that touch-up. just my $0.02. Nov 02, 2009 at 05:35 AM

paulhodson Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #15 · Glamour Shot! Yes - highlights while not blown are very close to pure white. But for a first glamour shot - could have been a whole lot worse. It is generally regarded as bad form by the way to post edits (even ones that actually improve an image ) unless you know that the person who took the shot either does not mind (as I don't) or has asked for help in the processing area or has given permission for the posting of an edit. Welcome to the site. Nov 02, 2009 at 09:16 AM

liamh Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #16 · Glamour Shot! I agree with Paul, for a newb you've done a stellar job. She's got a great look, well done. Nov 02, 2009 at 09:41 AM

BradTaylor Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #17 · Glamour Shot! What is this clam shell you guys are talking about? Nov 03, 2009 at 01:36 AM

paulhodson Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #18 · Glamour Shot! BradTaylor wrote: What is this clam shell you guys are talking about? Basically two lights, one above and one below the model on the camera axis. See http://www.photoflexlightingschool.com/Equipment_Lessons/Soft_Boxes___Strobe/OctoDome3/Clamshell_Portrait_3/index.html and http://blog.ajmartinez.com/2009/05/17/clamshell-lighting/ Nov 03, 2009 at 07:18 AM

jfinite Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #19 · Glamour Shot! She looks just a little bit alien. The strings from the pink top are distracting. She's turned slightly, I would prefer her to be directly facing the cam. Nov 03, 2009 at 04:01 PM

Daschund Woof Online Image Upload: On p.1 #20 · Glamour Shot! Hi Brad, Welcome to the forum! I would agree with the other comments that the image looks too washed out and flat. The beauty high key that you are talking about (bright, even light but maintaining the contours of the face) is not that easy to attain as it seems. Still, you did a great job considering this was your first glamour shot. The "clamshell" suggestion (I didn't know that light scheme had this name) is a good start, you can also use three softboxes in front of the model, one larger one on the center and two smaller ones tilted inside a bit, something like this \__/ I guess this would be the "inverted clamshell"? If you shot RAW, you can probably go back and reprocess the photo and tone down a bit on the highlights and recover the detail there. Hope this helps! Daschund Nov 04, 2009 at 05:01 AM

BradTaylor Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #21 · Glamour Shot! Daschund Woof wrote: Hi Brad, Welcome to the forum! I would agree with the other comments that the image looks too washed out and flat. The beauty high key that you are talking about (bright, even light but maintaining the contours of the face) is not that easy to attain as it seems. Still, you did a great job considering this was your first glamour shot. The "clamshell" suggestion (I didn't know that light scheme had this name) is a good start, you can also use three softboxes in front of the model, one larger one on the center and two smaller ones tilted inside a bit, something like this \__/ I guess this would be the "inverted clamshell"? If you shot RAW, you can probably go back and reprocess the photo and tone down a bit on the highlights and recover the detail there. Hope this helps! Daschund Thanks for all the comments guys, its interesting to hear most think its too bright. I did shoot in RAW and the original settings are not as bright, but I actually prefer this look and won't change it. Nov 04, 2009 at 05:29 AM

jtsmith Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #22 · Glamour Shot! Hi Brad, Although I am a huge fan of blown out beauty shots in black and white, I am not in color. This technique will be a cure for smooth skin without retouching and filtering in post. Too many like to follow rules and will not allow the creative process of blown out skin. In beauty work, skin is sometimes blown out for effect. Don't let someone detour you from creating images that don't follow portrait or PPA rules. That's not to discount the opinions of those who don't like it, as they could be your potential clients. I think in a presentation it needs to balance the model on the right side with negative space leading into her will yield better results to the eye. However, If the client is happy, no need to seek opinions from us. ;-) J T Smith Nov 04, 2009 at 06:04 AM

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