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p.2 #1 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


No, you need this extension when you are focused at infinity, not at the lens' MFD. At MFD you already have some extension. All 3 Kenko tubes with the 90 give greater than 1:1.

The TS-E 45 works well with tubes and a TC too... but the 45 is bigger and heavier, the 90 makes a nice walk around lens if you like a 90 for this (I do sometimes).

john_edwards wrote:
You will need 90mm of extension to get 1:1. 180mm of extension for 180mm lens, 50 for 50, etc. Easy to remember once you know. And I like Brent's pumpkin photo as well.




Oct 24, 2009 at 03:42 PM
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p.2 #2 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


TS-E 90 at f2.8:

http://markhahnphotography.com/myspace/blogs/texture_of_existence/TOE_5.jpg

TS-E 45:

http://markhahnphotography.com/myspace/blogs/texture_of_existence/TOE_2.jpg

both handheld with movements.



Oct 24, 2009 at 04:07 PM
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p.2 #3 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


Brent, those food shots are incredible. Wish I could light my stuff like that and get the same clarity in my images. How many lights were you using in total?

I used the TSE-90mm for a job I had for an afghan restaurant. I'm def. not a food photographer, but I was able to get the following shots w/ the lens:

http://www.limonphotography.com/blog/images/unabi/9.jpg

http://www.limonphotography.com/blog/images/unabi/11.jpg

http://www.limonphotography.com/blog/images/unabi/10.jpg

http://www.limonphotography.com/blog/images/unabi/13.jpg

http://www.limonphotography.com/blog/images/unabi/14.jpg



Oct 25, 2009 at 01:11 AM
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p.2 #4 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


wow this thread is definitely inspiring - those food shots are amazing; and bad timing considering its lunch time here.

So TS lens for macro photography?



Oct 25, 2009 at 05:48 AM
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p.2 #5 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


Here are some shots I took of my brother's WWII dioramas with the tse-90.

http://girlfan.smugmug.com/Other/WWII-dioramas/motorcyclebw/353397755_jcwZD-L.jpg

http://girlfan.smugmug.com/Other/WWII-dioramas/saluteweb/353411839_6jMAt-L.jpg

http://girlfan.smugmug.com/Other/WWII-dioramas/smokersbw/353399429_ihEpX-L.jpg

http://girlfan.smugmug.com/Other/WWII-dioramas/archwaybw/353395076_khjEr-L.jpg



Oct 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM
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p.2 #6 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


The shots in this thread are really inspiring, especially the watch, interesting and excellent, though I reall didn't need another lens to lust after

J

Jeff Kingston wrote:
Wow. Is this a timely thread! I have been mulling getting the TSE-90 for watch photography. Right now I have to really push things to get decent DOF, shooting at f14 most of the time (now using my new 7D which I consider a huge improvement over the 50D). Current lens is the 60mm 2.8 macro although sometimes I shoot the 100mm macro.

Others have said I need TWO extension tubes to approach 1:1 macro with this lens. Is that your experience?

Here is an example of one of the shots with the 7D.

http://jkingston.smugmug.com/Other/Watches09/DPP0311001/688171498_ehrvi-X3.jpg

Will this lens work for me?




Oct 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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p.2 #7 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


One of my first test with my new (used) 90 tse.
Tilting the plane is lot of fun :-)

http://www.nicolasgenette.com/temp/forums/Quel-avenir.jpg



Oct 25, 2009 at 01:48 PM
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p.2 #8 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


If I am following this correctly, the minimum focus distance for the TSE 90 is 1.5 feet. Sorry to sound so ignorant, but does an extension tube change that? Does the MFD change if a tube is used--asking because I have never shot with a tube.

For wristwatches, the holy grail is extreme detail for what are breathtakingly small components. This means filling the sensor with the watch. This provokes the question then of how long an extension tube is needed to fill the sensor with a watch that is 36mm in diameter?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeff



Oct 25, 2009 at 03:45 PM
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p.2 #9 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


Jeff,
I used a 24mm extension tube with the 90mm TS-E and I couldn't get the entire length of a AA battery into the frame of a FF camera. It is just a little short on both ends. I would guess that two extension tubes, a 24mm and 12mm, would do the trick. Maybe not quite 1:1 but it would be sufficient to fill the fram of a typical watch. I would get a set of Kenko extension tubes of varying lengths and play with the different lengths if I were you. The main advantage of the TS-E lens over a typical macro lens is the tilting will give you a more extended depth-of-field, if the position of the watch is not straight perpendicular but at an angle to the camera/lens axis. For straight up shots, a macro lens would still be more applicable.

Hope this helps,
Joshua



Oct 25, 2009 at 03:57 PM
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p.2 #10 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


You could also use an extension tube between the lens and a TC for even more. I use the 1.4 on the TS occasionally and the quality is great.


Oct 25, 2009 at 04:41 PM
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Will a TS work for full body people shots at a distance of about 5-7 feet from the subject and about 2 feet high off the ground?

I get funky distortion of peoples legs and feet when I use the low end of my 24-70 and want to avoid this.

Thanks




Oct 25, 2009 at 05:38 PM
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It takes a 1.4x well, too:

http://www.pbase.com/rtallent/image/112413922/original.jpg



Oct 25, 2009 at 06:13 PM
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p.2 #13 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


jkermani, the diorama shots are cool.






Oct 25, 2009 at 07:32 PM
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p.2 #14 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


Like the flower shot!


Oct 26, 2009 at 05:04 PM
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OceanView wrote:
Will a TS work for full body people shots at a distance of about 5-7 feet from the subject and about 2 feet high off the ground?

I get funky distortion of peoples legs and feet when I use the low end of my 24-70 and want to avoid this.


I have not use any TS-E lens for full-length shots but it doesn't mean it cannot be done. However, generally, people, especially women would like to get their legs accentuated; they would like to see their legs to be rendered longer. Using a wide angle lens from a lower angle, will get you that perspective. If you don't like that view, then you can use a longer focal length lens but you have to back away and that might pose a problem in a tight area. I guess you can indeed use a TS-E lens for that, maybe not a 90mm but a 45mm TS-E would probably be better for that purpose.



Oct 26, 2009 at 05:44 PM
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AGeoJO wrote:
I have not use any TS-E lens for full-length shots but it doesn't mean it cannot be done. However, generally, people, especially women would like to get their legs accentuated; they would like to see their legs to be rendered longer. Using a wide angle lens from a lower angle, will get you that perspective. If you don't like that view, then you can use a longer focal length lens but you have to back away and that might pose a problem in a tight area. I guess you can indeed use a TS-E lens for that, maybe not a
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I would probably use a 24mm TS as I need to be close.
The long leg effect that your referring to also makes peoples feet unproportionatly big which is not flattering. This is one reason I thought maybe the TS lenses may actually work. I guess I better try to rent one and try it out myself.




Oct 26, 2009 at 05:57 PM
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Brent Ward wrote:
Like the flower shot!


Thanks



Oct 26, 2009 at 05:58 PM
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p.2 #18 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


Jeff,

I already said in this thread that all 3 Kenko tubes gets you a little more than 1:1. Exact length is 36+20+12=68mm. 56mm doesn't quite get you there. That is from focusing on a ruler.

More precisely, it gets 32mm in an EOS 3 VF (not 100%) at MFD.

You can also get to 1:1 combining tubes with a TC...

Jeff Kingston wrote:
If I am following this correctly, the minimum focus distance for the TSE 90 is 1.5 feet. Sorry to sound so ignorant, but does an extension tube change that? Does the MFD change if a tube is used--asking because I have never shot with a tube.

For wristwatches, the holy grail is extreme detail for what are breathtakingly small components. This means filling the sensor with the watch. This provokes the question then of how long an extension tube is needed to fill the sensor with a watch that is 36mm in diameter?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeff




Oct 27, 2009 at 01:09 AM
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p.2 #19 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


Jeff Kingston wrote:
If I am following this correctly, the minimum focus distance for the TSE 90 is 1.5 feet. Sorry to sound so ignorant, but does an extension tube change that? Does the MFD change if a tube is used--asking because I have never shot with a tube.

Thanks,
Jeff


Hi Jeff, an extension tube does allow the lens to focus closer and there is a fairly simple formula to estimate the new mfd that's quite accurate.

I won't bore you with the formula unless you really want it but for the 90 TS-E here are the results for 3 popular extension tubes:

mfd is 1.6' or 488mm wo tubes

12mm
mfd = 340mm
25mm
mfd = 268mm
36mm
mfd = 233mm



Oct 27, 2009 at 02:56 AM
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p.2 #20 · TS-E 90mm Creative Uses


Well this thread was wonderful and the advice, wisdom, and coaching were, as always on this site, superb. Just pushed the buttons, enriching B&H and ordered the TS-E 90 and Kenko tubes. Looking forward to the results now!

Jeff



Oct 27, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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