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I worked in the factory. I was a quality engineer for the plant that builds the M Class, GL and R Class. You may think you know, but you dont. I have seen what they "can" put out for the Auto Shows. The vehicles that go to the Auto Shows get special treatment all the way out the door. And as the Supervior for that department, I was responsible for testing those vehicle myself rather than my guys/girls.
Dont misunderstand what I said, I just responded to another comment on the orange peel because it struck a hot topic from the past. I along with JD Power have complained about it beyond belief. JD Powers stand was "Many of their field surveys show customers would like better paint and were drawn to vehicles having a better paint look" But it didnt help.
Its not aweful. Its probably better than most out there....but they are only better than those vehicles costing in the 15-25,000 price range.
Thing is, the MB Show vehicles we sent out, looked like what VW/Audi produce for every customer. Thats my complaint. I wanted the customer to get their money worth, and I didnt feel they did with MB. I feel they ride the name/tradition of old way to much. they think as long as that star on the front is nice and big and shiny, all is OK. And maybe it is to a larger degree than I realize. But it still doesnt make it right.
As a side note, I also worked at a Honda dealership years ago and so I see what two different companies produce and have been on both sides of the fence.
We've gone way off topic here. If youd like to know more on the topic, feel free to email me. This strikes a nerve with me on Canons side when I see them send out so much questionable equipment. I imagine what the factory is saying in Japanese just as I did when the 1D3 issue was born.
You know 1 or 2 things are fact:
1. Canon knew after much trial testing before release(just as I did at MB) that the Mark3 was not doing as well as the IIn. They exactly what most of the root cause was, but elected not to more testing and repair.
2. If they didnt, then Canons engineers are not what they should be and this one I find way off and would put large sums of money down that its wrong.
So that leaves number only 1, and I can just see the conversation behind closed doors. I've had them, they went like this. "Its too late to make any serious changes in design at this point(R Class), we will make "this" change and let the rest go. We dont think in the end the customer will notice it" "Doesnt matter, its a design issue and we cant change it now"
And so we, the customer inheret this design issue at a premium without any prior knowledge that it was a problem. They just say this is normal and move on.
And for those who say, "If its that bad, just move to another brand" Well, when you own as much equipment as I do, thats not as easy to do. Its not as simple as just sell off everything, use that money to by new. Well, this stuff loses alot of value and I use my equipment to make a living, so its not easy to sell it off and do without it for any length of time. I just have to wait and see if Canon makes another camera thats better.
No, it doesnt do any good on my end with the posts in this thread on Canons part. It does nothing at all. It may very well annoy a lot of people. Most are Canon fanb boys who hate to have their brand tarnished. I saw a fellow photographer expressing his dissatisfaction with his new purchase, and was attacked by doing so, as is anyone that ever posts dissatisfaction, so I responded as a supportive voice of opposition that grew in part because everytime I made a statement, I was responded in a way that had to answer it. Let the guy say what he wants without everyone feeling need to defend Canons honor.
But what it might do is serve the purpose of the forum all together and at least be a voice to a potential buyer thats says "Hey, do some serious research, there are some design flaws with some of Canons stuff. Dont sink a bunch of money here without doing some serious purpose research.
The R class buyers didnt have that. They could have, but wasnt legally allowed to do so. And so, MB will not keep producing the R Class. It was a one life cycle run. Read into that what you will.
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