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p.6 #1 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Sam Hassas wrote:
I did a screen capture just in case he comments again and it changed



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Oct 26, 2009 at 03:25 PM
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p.6 #2 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


This is great, Alan owns the location and concept, all he needed was a couple.
It took three years for the penny to drop,
Telepathy me thinks, Alan do you drink your coffee anywhere near Tony
Also saw some apes making out at the zoo have to say the posing was awesome, later that night I watched Frank singing and dancing in the rain, de'ya think he'll mind
I not taking anymore pictures until I can assure myself there all MINE I TELLS Ye
Maybe I'll get couples to just lick each other from now on, no copying




alanwarp wrote:
I thought that looked familiar... April 2006, same location:

http://www.alanmacdonaldphoto.com/photos/webpost/chairs_01.jpg
http://www.alanmacdonaldphoto.com/photos/webpost/chairs_02.jpg

I can't believe you'd do this to me Hoffer...





Oct 26, 2009 at 04:01 PM
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p.6 #3 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


"simpsons did it."

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Oct 26, 2009 at 04:17 PM
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p.6 #4 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


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Hoffer:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/bryanlindsey12345/Ferraioli-9.jpg

Other guy, two weeks later:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/bryanlindsey12345/DSC_0144-3.jpg

Wow, when you put them side by side like that, #2 really sucks.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Or is idea-stealing the highest form of douchebaggery? :-(

"Tony Hoffer: Often imitated, never duplicated."



I have done this shot as well. I am always part of a two person team. My partner posed the couple and I shot her pose from my angle. I saw the opportunity and took it. This pose has been shot many times...I guess Tony invented it?



Oct 26, 2009 at 07:13 PM
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p.6 #5 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Mitchel107 wrote:
I have done this shot as well. I am always part of a two person team. My partner posed the couple and I shot her pose from my angle. I saw the opportunity and took it. This pose has been shot many times...I guess Tony invented it?


I did this shot for an engagement session but the whole in- half out concept is old. Did this over a year ago:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2939537061_b37f9080a0_b.jpg




Oct 26, 2009 at 07:55 PM
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p.6 #6 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Who really cares I think all this ripping stuff is getting blown out of proportion.

Even award winning shots get ripped...

Ideas come from somewhere too.

If you have to skills to execute it and perfect it... then ripp on who ever you want. Practice will not only improve your shots, but will allow you to think outside the box too.

bottom line, if you are affraid your concepts will be copied, then keep them to yourself and refrain from posting in a wedding forum. its a no brainer lol




Oct 26, 2009 at 08:08 PM
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p.6 #7 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Sam Hassas wrote:
I did this shot for an engagement session but the whole in- half out concept is old.

Ditto.
http://www.mauriceramirez.com/ChristelDarrenLifestyle-071.jpg


...But I think this emphasis on who's copying mere POSES is missing the point.

There's a difference between being inspired and copying. We're supposed to be artists, folks. We have to at least TRY to express something authentic.

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Oct 26, 2009 at 08:08 PM
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p.6 #8 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


mauriceramirez wrote:


Ditto.
http://www.mauriceramirez.com/ChristelDarrenLifestyle-071.jpg



That's insane.


I bet you took like 50 shots to get the perfect shot ....



Oct 26, 2009 at 08:12 PM
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p.6 #9 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Mr. Malik wrote:
I bet you took like 50 shots to get the perfect shot ....


Thanks. No it only took about two or three tries.

If the dude couldn't pull it off for real I wouldn't push the issue.



Oct 26, 2009 at 08:18 PM
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p.6 #10 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Mr. Malik wrote:
Who really cares
Even award winning shots get ripped...



I agree for the most part BUT there are some shots that are so rare that a blatant copy make you look creative-less. Make it yours.

Epic shot M.

~Sam



Oct 26, 2009 at 08:20 PM
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Sam Hassas wrote:
I agree for the most part BUT there are some shots that are so rare that a blatant copy make you look creative-less. Make it yours.

~Sam


The problem lies in photographers who value the creativity of others, more than their own.

Get inspired but bring something new to the table. Have faith in your mistakes. Better images, more confidence, and higher rates will follow.

-m



Oct 26, 2009 at 08:33 PM
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p.6 #12 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Wow. Go away for a short while and the whole place turns loco.

What's this I hear of rockstarz?? Is someone here a good singer?

/asim



Oct 26, 2009 at 09:31 PM
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p.6 #13 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Most of this thread is garbage, but man, Maurice, that shot is SICK.


Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 PM
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p.6 #14 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


can't we all just get along ? :P


Oct 26, 2009 at 10:52 PM
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p.6 #15 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


This being my first year in wedding photography I had decided to stay away from the FM wedding forum for exactly this reason. There are many awesome photographers here posting some amazing photos (Maurice's shot is just stunning) and I didn't want to be influenced by any of them and rely mostly on my own creativity.

Sure some of my own shots probably are similar to other people's poses but I don't go about copying people. Good photographers know good poses and compositions when we see them and snap away. But it is a completely different thing to be following someone else's work and copying them shot for shot.



Oct 27, 2009 at 01:11 AM
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p.6 #16 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


LERtastic wrote:
Most of this thread is garbage, but man, Maurice, that shot is SICK.


+1



Oct 27, 2009 at 05:49 AM
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p.6 #17 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Sam Hassas wrote:
The gerneral rule is, if you've shared coffee cups for drinking or office floors for sleeping, copying is okay. The rest have to pay. PAY!

~Sam


That sounds reasonable.



Oct 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM
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p.6 #18 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


what needs to stop is:

http://kurtiskronk.com/clients/2009-10-09-corey-jenna/engagement/blog/01.jpg
http://pitmanphotography.smugmug.com/Other/2007-Wedding-Showables/NDBL01/690062438_MxNyN-X3.jpg



Oct 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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p.6 #19 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


**ouch**...burn..


Oct 27, 2009 at 03:16 PM
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p.6 #20 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


This place is better than Reddit.


Oct 27, 2009 at 03:35 PM
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