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p.2 #1 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


javajive wrote:
Hi All,

I'm the guilty party that copied the Hoff.

I apologized to him on a private email, gave him props on Facebook.

I'm surprised he is bringing this up again. I really though that we were squared away about this incident. In his reply he was a true gentleman and took the high road which I appreciate and thank him for.

I can and will apologize again for the bad advice given to me by another photog but what's done is done; I apologized, learned my lesson and moved on.

Regards,

Miguel



Well Reason, I stand corrected. Miguel, like I said in PM, I didn't know you were on here. Wasn't trying to rehash anything with you as we're definitely cool now as far as I'm concerned.



Oct 02, 2009 at 09:49 AM
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p.2 #2 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


i actually legally changed my name to tony hoffer, and just wear a mask when clients meet me


Oct 02, 2009 at 09:52 AM
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p.2 #3 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


actually no, he copied ME

IM TONY HOFFER



Oct 02, 2009 at 09:54 AM
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p.2 #4 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


OMG.

I just got a PM from someone who asked not to be identified.

This is too funny... I was totally thinking of the shot posted above when I said "woman looking up and just the dude's feet hanging down" ... but unless this is a doctored up image from someone else ...

Hoffer....

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/bryanlindsey12345/Ferraioli-9.jpg

Hassass...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2648/3954465065_941ec0551d_o.jpg

Ok, after seeing this I formally declare it officially fair game to shamelessly rip off poses. I dunno who shot theirs first, but if the Rockstarz can "flatter with imitation" then so can we!



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:05 AM
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p.2 #5 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Tony Hoffer wrote:
I will nominate someone...

Me...

Other dude, 1 week later...

Same location by the way.


Seems to be a lot of that going around:
http://angelicaglass.bigfolioblog.com/weblog/post/126739



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:09 AM
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p.2 #6 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


btw... I have a crispy $20* right here that says that nobody will say anything like this:

Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Or is idea-stealing the highest form of douchebaggery? :-(


about my post above.

Well except for some really hungry dude/dudette looking to make a quick $20.

NOT Lisy

* Void where prohibited
twenty dollar offer not valid in AK, HI, NY, NIGERIA
to claim your twenty dollars please send shipping and handling charge of $20.45 to address provided to you in winner notification email.



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:12 AM
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p.2 #7 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


who wants to petition fred to make this the new FM header?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/ksmahgrts/fmlogo.jpg



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:13 AM
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p.2 #8 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


WIN


Oct 02, 2009 at 10:17 AM
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p.2 #9 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Pretty safe to say we all get ideas for poses from other people.


Oct 02, 2009 at 10:17 AM
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p.2 #10 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


reason wrote:
This is why about a month ago I posted my thoughts on why it's not very smart to share images on this forum. You guys laughed at me.
As I said in that post all you do by posting your images here is train your competition.
I rather share business advice than my pictures.



Hahahahahaha

Kidding. I do wonder about sharing some images on blogs for that reason though. If its standard work that is well done sure but stuff that sets you apart should be in the studio or display albums. Then i guess you have to have something that hooks the client in the first place, a bit of a catch22



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:17 AM
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p.2 #11 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


lisy78 wrote:
OMG.

I just got a PM from someone who asked not to be identified.

This is too funny... I was totally thinking of the shot posted above when I said "woman looking up and just the dude's feet hanging down" ... but unless this is a doctored up image from someone else ...

Hoffer....

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/bryanlindsey12345/Ferraioli-9.jpg

Hassass...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2648/3954465065_941ec0551d_o.jpg

Ok, after seeing this I formally declare it officially fair game to shamelessly rip off poses. I dunno who shot theirs first, but if the Rockstarz can "flatter with imitation" then so can we!


Actually, Sam asked my permission for that one. His couple couldn't kiss so he needed ideas. Ha!



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:18 AM
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p.2 #12 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


I went to scout a beach location for an e-sesh about 3-4 days before the sesh only to log on here and see that Hoff posted an e-sesh from....you guessed it: The beach!

I'm sure some shots were similar be of the locations, but I definitely wouldn't go into any shoot with the mindset of copying anyone. I will say that the negative space that's being used more and more around here seems to be inspired by Hoffer, even if it's been done a gazillion times over the years. I'm pretty sure I gave Tony props for this one because it strikes me as being very Hoffer-esque.

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq351/alanabramsphotography/Engagement/IMGP7254.jpg



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:32 AM
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p.2 #13 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


deepbluejh wrote:
Pretty safe to say we all get ideas for poses from other people.



THIS

Photographers are so freakin insecure sometimes..



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:37 AM
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p.2 #14 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Or just quick to jump on a bandwagon.


Oct 02, 2009 at 10:40 AM
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p.2 #15 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


VPell wrote:
Or just quick to jump on a bandwagon.

That's an internet thing, not a photographer exclusive thing.



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:42 AM
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p.2 #16 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Lucky_Dog wrote:
That's an internet thing, not a photographer exclusive thing.


Kinda true.



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:43 AM
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p.2 #17 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


First I'd like to say the level of photography here is incredible. I really enjoy the wit and banter as well. I don't post much because I don't shoot weddings and this is a wedding forum. So the comment about 5000 lurkers probably has a lot to do with that as well. Think about it. If we were not then we'd be your competition and even if we all were not as good you'd still loose income because some would choose based on price.

Do you guys really think that everything has not been done already? Image wise.

So ring shots on flowers, Dresses hanging in the window overexposed, trash the dress, etc. Off limits? You will all do these shots at your next wedding.

It seems that actual stolen image threads are less heated than these.

I'm pretty sure if I look hard enough I'll even find a logo similar to Hoffer's. I'm a big fan of Tony's work and don't shoot weddings but do shoot portraits and kids part-time. Probably everything has been shot.

Negative space has been a concept forever.

I believe that poaching clients on FB is not good business and will bite them in the end.

I hope that this is taken as intended... simply another point of view.

Thanks for your time,
Jim



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:57 AM
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p.2 #18 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


This might sound lame,

but I am a Hofferite !!!!



Oct 02, 2009 at 10:59 AM
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p.2 #19 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


jhobgood wrote:
First I'd like to say the level of photography here is incredible. I really enjoy the wit and banter as well. I don't post much because I don't shoot weddings and this is a wedding forum. So the comment about 5000 lurkers probably has a lot to do with that as well. Think about it. If we were not then we'd be your competition and even if we all were not as good you'd still loose income because some would choose based on price.

Do you guys really think that everything has not been done already? Image wise.

So ring shots on
...Show more

^ this is a good post



Oct 02, 2009 at 11:00 AM
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p.2 #20 · I Ripped off the Hoffer support group


Hoffer and Sam are just being modest. They ripped off every pose they use from Todd Reeves.


Oct 02, 2009 at 11:05 AM
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