robert61 wrote:
Just got the HOBD and am very pleased. However, I ran across one issue I hadn't thought of. I mounted the BD to an AB800 which is on an AB heavy duty stand. I wanted to put it a few feet above the model's face and point down for a butterfly effect.
Well, didn't think this one out, but no can do. The dish bumps into the stand after only a few degrees of downward tilt. So, now I'm thinking to do this would probably require a boom. Any other methods I haven't thought of yet?
This is an issue with many lights and similar modifiers. There are a number of inexpensive mini booms available from B&H that can add a lot of versatility in these situations.
Have several of your lights including an ABR and appreciate the products. Since getting the 5D2, been doing a lot of video as well and trying figure out how to use the same basic lighting with continuous florescence. Have a couple 85 Watt 5000K (huge 349W eqv spiral bulbs) that I am using in umbrellas. But I wonder if the 22HOBD might make a good reflector for these giant bulbs. With a bulb that sticks out 10" what will happen to the light and angles of shadow?
Plus, I would love to have an ABR with the flash tubes replaced with high-output 5000K florescence. Seen some DIY and very expensive pro models, but an AB version would be ideal with the same tripod mounts, adjustments for the video DSLR and perhaps mounting of a HOBD type of reflector. That is a look I appreciate for stills and would like to transfer to video. The large moon unit would be fantastic with an ABVR.
Lots going on with the fusion of still and video. I can imagine how to modify AB lights so they work for video. What do you think?
We discontinued these because they are so hard and expensive to ship and we ran out and don't sell that many. Our inventory is so huge that we have to limit to the prime items that aren't readily available elsewhere. There are many similar and cheaper booms at B&H - a much broader selection than we could possibly offer. I really suggest a real short boom that doesn't need a huge counter weight, or none at all for many situations. Females have a really hard time with the big booms and they are dangerous to use.
Have several of your lights including an ABR and appreciate the products. Since getting the 5D2, been doing a lot of video as well and trying figure out how to use the same basic lighting with continuous florescence. Have a couple 85 Watt 5000K (huge 349W eqv spiral bulbs) that I am using in umbrellas. But I wonder if the 22HOBD might make a good reflector for these giant bulbs. With a bulb that sticks out 10" what will happen to the light and angles of shadow?
Plus, I would love to have an ABR with the flash tubes replaced with high-output 5000K florescence. Seen some DIY and very expensive pro models, but an AB version would be ideal with the same tripod mounts, adjustments for the video DSLR and perhaps mounting of a HOBD type of reflector. That is a look I appreciate for stills and would like to transfer to video. The large moon unit would be fantastic with an ABVR.
Lots going on with the fusion of still and video. I can imagine how to modify AB lights so they work for video. What do you think?
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A lamp that long would destroy the focus of the 22HOBD so you wouldn't get much.
Regarding a special flashtube, that would have to be custom made and would be rather expensive. We are not able to do custom things like this. Sorry!
If I use the beauty dish w/ the grid, can you/should you still use the sock? Is a grid almost like a snoot, in that it directs the light and causes less spill?
A grid is pretty much like a snoot. You could out the sock on first, then the grid. This would mainly cause a reduction of power VS just using the grid alone. If you put the grid first, then the sock, the sock would undo the effect of the grid.
Putting a sock on pretty much diminishes the point in using the dish in the first place. If you like that soft, filtered effect, you're better off using a softbox. Try a few shots without the sock at different distances (primarily close to the subject) from your subject and the review to see what looks most appealing. If you don't like the effect, then throw on the sock.
Deezie wrote:
Putting a sock on pretty much diminishes the point in using the dish in the first place. If you like that soft, filtered effect, you're better off using a softbox. Try a few shots without the sock at different distances (primarily close to the subject) from your subject and the review to see what looks most appealing. If you don't like the effect, then throw on the sock.
Softboxes are neither round nor as efficient. But your analysis is correct.
Hey Everyone, a GRIP arm is what you want for your beauty dish on a light stand. I bought one for 39 bucks @ Calumet photo. It gives me the perfect reach I need to do whatever I want with an AB light and beauty dish. check out calumetphoto.com
LA, grip arms are great, but if that's all you need it for, you're better off with a grip head and a 6-9'' baby pin. Ideally, you'll have both available depending on whether you just need to point it down or if you want to extend the BD a little to get some extra working space.
Hey Bacilonur, yeah I like having the lee way that grip arms give me with the 40" of reach. Gives me the versatility I need. I rented a mathews mini boom that was really cool, but It ended up being ov erkill...even the counter weight was too much.
So I settled for a 36 dollar part that does absolutely well!
I may have to look into a baby pin though for some uses..i've not seen one.
Speaking of grip arms, I took Simon and Carmen's recommendation for the Avenger Avenger 2030D kit.
What's the second grip head for, the one on the end of the grip arm? Is there a typical use for it?
I'm guessing that's where a drop-down pin would go if I were using one, but right now I have a B400 with barndoors mounted directly to the other end of the grip arm. My plan for the stand is for Paul's new beauty dish.
This stand is a lot beefier than I thought it'd be, and operation of the knobs and clamps inspires confidence.
maczilla wrote:
What's the second grip head for, the one on the end of the grip arm? Is there a typical use for it?
Hanging flags, nets, scrims, reflector panels or gobos...basically you reverse which end of the arm is the "business end" depending on whether you're attaching a strobe or a piece of grip. Those different-diameter holes correspond to different standardized shafts on the various grip stuff most-often hung on photo and film sets, basically. If you're attaching a strobe to the end of the arm, then the additional grip head sorta becomes a combo handle/counterweight.
I'd show you photos but Flickr's been down for the last several hours.
EDIT: Flickr's back up. You can see a bunch of flags and whatnot held in grip heads below:
Thanks for answering my question. I didn't realize you were receiving them so soon. I plan to buy your new dish in the next few weeks.
I have another question if you have the time to answer it: what's a white version of the new beauty dish supposed to do that the silver version with sock won't do?
