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p.7 #1 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

It doesn't fit tight on the strobe. Same deal with a softbox I use.

Oct 24, 2009 at 06:39 PM

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p.7 #2 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

Here are some quick snaps of what mine looks like...

mounts alone

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Dish Attached

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Attached from different angle

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hope that helps you out somehow.

Oct 24, 2009 at 07:20 PM

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p.7 #3 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

To suredly derail this subject--what the heck are those photos of? It looks a lot like diffusion tube furnaces, but I'm unsure.

Oct 24, 2009 at 07:45 PM

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p.7 #4 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

It's a Flux Capacitor.

The first pic is a closeup of the modifier mounting tabs on an Alien Bee B800 strobe. The next two are of the new 22" High Output beauty dish mounted on the B800.

I just wanted to show some pics of what it looks like securely mounted so that others can compare if theirs is loose.

Oct 24, 2009 at 08:34 PM

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p.7 #5 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

To clarify, mine isn't loose at all, the problem is that the beauty dish doesn't sit flush with the AB. It sags off a bit. I'll take some photos of this later, but honestly, with your photos gpsphoto, I don't think you'd be able to see what I'm talking about. You'd need to take a shot on the other side and see where the dish meets the AB.

Oct 24, 2009 at 08:53 PM

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p.7 #6 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

mine fits nicely. No wobbling.

Thing is, I'm surprised by how much light this thing puts out. I have 1 AB800 at lowest power, stand about 8 feet away and I'm still at ISO 100 and f/18.

It nukes the hell out of everything!

On a sidenote, I know somebody mentioned a small boom to point the BD downward. What make was it? I can't find the post in this thread...

Oct 24, 2009 at 09:12 PM

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p.7 #7 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

I doesn't put out as much power as you're getting. At 320WS (AB800) I get f22 at 10'. AB400 at minimum power is 6 f stops less than this and should yield about f2.8. Did you dump the power when you lowered it to minimum power? Sounds like you AB800 was at about 1/2 power to get f18 at 8'.

Putting the sock on should drop the output about 2 f stops,

Oct 24, 2009 at 10:27 PM

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Future Man wrote:
Paul, I got my HOBD. As with other modifiers I've tried, it doesn't exactly fit snug on my AB800, which I assume is just a downside of the mounting system used on ABs. It's not much, but it does droop off a bit.

I was wondering if the Einstein will provide a more robust mount or do I have to move up to a WL for something like this? Is this just a downside of the ABs being such small units?

Einstein has a more precise grip. The ABs tend to allow all accessories to sag a little bit because of the way the fingers are bent. This isn't usually a problem in use.

Oct 24, 2009 at 10:33 PM

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Paul Buff wrote:
maczilla wrote:
Dear Paul

What's the latest information you have for when you'll receive the next shipment of your new beauty dish?

--Jaddie
I think they're coming in today or tomorrow. Check with customer service for accurate answer. I'm working on a white version right now.

Mr Paul,

How is work on the white beauty dish progressing? Will it available within a month? Will it be based on the same design of the current silver HOBD? In other words, will it still have the same narrow light beam without using a grid? and finally, will it be priced closer to the HOBD or the older white beauty dish? I'm curious to know.. I'm currently debating on whether to snag one of the older beauty dishes while their still available or wait for a newer version. Thank you.

Oct 30, 2009 at 05:39 AM

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p.7 #10 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

We are waiting for white samples of the 22HOBD. Because of the white rather than reflective silver it will be very wide angle and lower output and nearly identical to the classic white dish. I have painted one and tested it here, with very good results. It should be ready within a month and, good news, will be priced the same as the 22HOBD.

Oct 30, 2009 at 06:27 PM

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So, if I can get some white paint and paint the interior myself, would it be a solution? If yes, what type of paint do you recommend?

Nov 06, 2009 at 09:19 PM

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www.powdercoating.org/member_list.php?id=5
There are facilities everywhere to find. As coating of a single object in a specific colour is uneconomic you'd have to wait until the coater has a satin or dull white in his coating chamber. Then the price for one piece is pretty low.
The advantage is a coating that resists any usage and almost never yellows.

Nov 06, 2009 at 09:41 PM

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One needs to be careful what the coating consists of.
Color temps could be all over the map.

Using a dish with a significantly different temp than say your fill lighting, might result in some embarrassing fake tans.

Nov 06, 2009 at 10:29 PM

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So is the new White 22HOBD out yet?

Paul Buff wrote:
We are waiting for white samples of the 22HOBD. Because of the white rather than reflective silver it will be very wide angle and lower output and nearly identical to the classic white dish. I have painted one and tested it here, with very good results. It should be ready within a month and, good news, will be priced the same as the 22HOBD.

Dec 18, 2009 at 06:35 PM

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p.7 #15 · PCB new 22" High Output BD

The production white dishes are being painted now. We went through several paint samples to get it within 100° of neutral. Then we had to specify more flattening agent to get the appropriate matte finish. Next we have to bear the cost of air shipment from China (very high because of the dimensional weight) to get them to customers ASAP. BTW, the USA powder coated was charging $35 per dish to paint the old ones (white inside, black outside) and their color temp was all over the place.

And, yes, what seems to the eye to be pure white can easily be 500° off.

Dec 19, 2009 at 05:56 AM

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will this version be able to work in studio without lowering the power on a b800 too much? I'm interested in a beauty dish for beauty work, but reading the comments on the silver HOBD that its too powerfull you need to put the sock on it (which in my mind defeats the purpose of this modifier), something the original white dish doesn't need but it has the option.

Dec 19, 2009 at 07:51 AM

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Cuervo79 wrote:
will this version be able to work in studio without lowering the power on a b800 too much? I'm interested in a beauty dish for beauty work, but reading the comments on the silver HOBD that its too powerfull you need to put the sock on it (which in my mind defeats the purpose of this modifier), something the original white dish doesn't need but it has the option.

Yes, the white version, by nature, has similar output and look as the original white dish. While there may be differences of opinion about the sock, it is my observation that the silver dish, with sock and no blocker, produces superior evenness and lighting effect to the original version with or without sock. Opinions and test shots from users are appreciated.

Dec 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM

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Future Man wrote:
Paul, I got my HOBD. As with other modifiers I've tried, it doesn't exactly fit snug on my AB800, which I assume is just a downside of the mounting system used on ABs. It's not much, but it does droop off a bit.

I was wondering if the Einstein will provide a more robust mount or do I have to move up to a WL for something like this? Is this just a downside of the ABs being such small units?

The Einstein mounting system is an improved version of the WLX mounting system and is quite superior to the AB system.

Dec 19, 2009 at 11:30 PM


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