...she actually got snagged on the power cord and dropped my Mac laptop on the kitchen floor (ceramic tile) a few weeks ago. Casing cracked open and it was beyond repair. I bore witness to said event and she looked like I was about to slap her and I must have looked like she had just sucker-punched me.
Dan, if you get the M9 you are obligated to post your opinion on the forum, I would like to know for sure. You be the early adopter and I be the sit-back-and-watch-guy. And bide my time...
thrice wrote:
Lol, very poetic Henrik. My girlfriend thinks I have lens-addiction problems, I'm just happy to have a girlfriend haha.
Dan
Yes, mine does too. Since I have actually cut back on lenses she thinks I am out of it.
That's another reason why I can't gracefully incorporate an M9 plus three lenses. Also, there is no grace in eating cold oatmeal for six to eight months to help balance out the economy...
thrice wrote:
Think about it, what is IS useful for? photography of static subjects without a tripod right?
That and getting motion blur without camera shake. No substitute for IS in those situations unless you want to lug around a tripod. And no substitute for IS in those other situations you mentioned unless you use a tripod too. No thanks to that.
kosmoskatten wrote:
...she actually got snagged on the power cord and dropped my Mac laptop on the kitchen floor (ceramic tile) a few weeks ago. Casing cracked open and it was beyond repair. I bore witness to said event and she looked like I was about to slap her and I must have looked like she had just sucker-punched me.
Well, at least a new replacement Mac laptop would have a magnetic cord connector so you would not have to worry about here doing that one again...and you get a shiny new laptop out of the deal!
I've been processing a recent shoot with my D70 and had forgotten how much I like the look of CCD files.
Yup, he also put together a great video on street shooting, where I think (in at least part of it) he is shooting with the M9.
I've been following him for a while and really like his work. His blogs and writings are a bit rough around the edges. You know what I mean if you've read them. Seems like a really great guy though.
Reichmann says there is no AA filter Can someone confirm that moire reduction is done in software? Maybe that explains the red fringes in the building sample. I suppose at 18 Mpixel moire is going to be less significant than at 10 though.
Richard I think software corrected is the case, I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere in Leica's announcement.
kosmoskatten wrote:
I feel a bit anxious traveling around with such an expensive system. If the camera was $3000 + lenses I would feel slightly anxious and now it is twice that.
Actually I've been thinking the same thing, trying to picture myself shooting street in the city at night with $10k strapped around my neck and marked with a red dot in case anyone missed it. Hmmmmm
Dan I understand what you're saying about night shooting with moving subjects, you need high ISO, but do you really like the M9's high iso? Granted, you can mount some amazing fast lenses and use the high aperture to get some shutter speed. But chasing moving subjects around with a razor thin depth of field which you control manually while squinting through a rangefinder? Dunno man, I think in those circumstances I'd rather have usable ISO6400-12800 and be able to stop a couple of stops and make my life easier, or a really good mid AF point and a fast focusing lens. I'd probably pick another camera for low light/moving subjects.
Or I'm simply trying to convince myself that I dont want an M9
It's actually not that expensive, given Leica's penchant for marking things up. It costs less than a 1Ds III or D3x (MSRP), though it has a lot less automation. If RF's your thing, I can't imagine a much better choice. Good thing I think rangefinders suck, so I won't be getting one. As for the rest of you, may the lord save your bank accounts.
This is just a camera for the wealthy to show-off their status. The working professional photographer probably has better options (though I could see this working for the odd one, maybe); honest people who work for a living don't have the $7000 to drop on such a thing (or rather, probably shouldn't drop $7000 on such a thing).
I'd love a camera *like* this - just basic photographic controls and a nice sensor - but not with the Leica price-tag. I'll have to wait for the digital Zorki to hit ebay for $40.
(Actually, I have an E-P1 which is a similar form factor, just without the status value and old rangefinder controls).
Spyro P. wrote:
Dan I understand what you're saying about night shooting with moving subjects, you need high ISO, but do you really like the M9's high iso? Granted, you can mount some amazing fast lenses and use the high aperture to get some shutter speed. But chasing moving subjects around with a razor thin depth of field which you control manually while squinting through a rangefinder? Dunno man, I think in those circumstances I'd rather have usable ISO6400-12800 and be able to stop a couple of stops and make my life easier, or a really good mid AF point and a fast focusing lens. I'd probably pick another camera for low light/moving subjects.
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I've been harrassed before with my 5D, never had anyone say anything about my M6 except a cool guy also named Daniel who was using a Zorki.
Walter, I'm a working photographer, not that honest though and also cannot afford an M9 with my spare cash.
I'm parting with other photographic things I have acquired over the years to pinch enough pennies to get one. I think I have the right to do so, no one has the right to tell me I'm making a mistake or criticise me for spending that much.
walter23 wrote:
This is just a camera for the wealthy to show-off their status.
(Actually, I have an E-P1 which is a similar form factor, just without the status value and old rangefinder controls).
I don´t agree with the judgments you make about the users of these two cameras. I think the EP1 is more of a (general) status camera than the m9, as half its value is its beautiful jewelry design, perfectly suited to show off at parties. You don´t bring the m9 to a party, you might show it off to your photography friends for some "cash feelback", but really (in my opinion) you bring it out to shoot and elevate yourself to feel like the famous photographers using it before you. Using a camera like this somehow gives you "the right" to take certain pictures that a big dslr doesn´t and can make you bolder. I think the high price is just a bothersome coincidence. Thats my exp with my m8. I got mine used for 2300 usd which is much less than my 5d or 5d2 cost.
The M9 is to dream about. If anyone is getting one here, more power to you. It would be financially irresponsible for me to acquire one at the moment, but due to its release, I will probably accelerate my efforts to get a M8.
The M9 and M8 both have the same pixel size. The M9 really is a scaled up FF version. It would be nice to actually use all that periphery of the M lenses FOV, but I will have to settle for the 75% view of the M8. Question is do I use my M28 Elmarit Pre-ASPH, or trade it for the M35 Summicron ASPH for a normal lens. I'm thinking of giving up the extra FOV of the 28, for the extra stop of the 35/2.0.
Seeing the comparisons thus far between the 20+MP unsharpened, AA equipped DSLR's and the non AA equipped M9, it is not surprising that the M9 would look sharper at 100% under these comparative conditions. Use the best RAW converter for each camera and proper sharpening for AA equipped DSLR's and the difference would vanish. At least that is my take knowing what my A900 is capable of. I highly doubt the M9 out-resolves the DSLR's. At best it might be a wash between the cameras.
As for the rest of you, may the lord save your bank accounts.