Chris Beaumont wrote:
Sam, haven't you being rocking da flare for years? Is this some sort of 5DII over-sensitive to the heat issue? Or have you just started doing it a LOT more often than when you had the MK I ?
No Chris this is not new. This is just not discussed in great lengths. Because flare is now starting to become used more than before.
The lens length, intensity of the sun (IE how much of the sun is in the image), how large the sun is in the frame and the length the shutter is open plays a role.
Its a crapshoot and like playing Russian Roulette with your sensor.
Homey wrote:
No Chris this is not new. This is just not discussed in great lengths. Because flare is now starting to become used more than before.
The lens length, intensity of the sun (IE how much of the sun is in the image), how large the sun is in the frame and the length the shutter is open plays a role.
Its a crapshoot and like playing Russian Roulette with your sensor.
I think he means sam has, presumably, had his Mk I's in action for far longer then his melted MkII, and that if it were to happen, one would assume the MkI would have shown it first.
jeremy_clay wrote:
I think he means sam has, presumably, had his Mk I's in action for far longer then his melted MkII, and that if it were to happen, one would assume the MkI would have shown it first.
Bingo Exactly what I meant, I was sure I'd seen Sam doing flare long before the 5DII was even announced, and presumably the 5D classic hasn't done some sort of Wicked Witch of the West act and melted?
fchang wrote:
I wonder if a UV filter or CP filter on the lens can mitigate some of the damage?
CP might, as the light intensity hitting the sensor/mirror will be lessened, I doubt it's UV light causing the damage though, as has been mentioned already, any lens is essentially just a magnifying glass concentrating light to a circle of 36mmx36mm (or thereabouts )
I am thankful for the warning and I am not a fan of flare anyway. I am one to always use the lens hood when I have one or shielding my camera from flare even if just with my hand.
By 2014, the majority of wedding photographers have returned to using film cameras. Most experts pinpoint the start of the switch to about the time this thread was pointed.
Homey wrote:
Ahh I see.
Thats possible.
Depends on how hot the Mk 1 sensor has gotten before.
I'll shut up and wait for Sam to tell us if he shot more flare shots with the Mk uno and there are no issues.
No nothing ever happened to the MK1. I shot with it for about a year longer then the MK2 and with no second body to absorbs some of the use. The 5Dmk1 got a lot of flare time.
A lot of things have to go just right to get that kind of a beam on the sensor. If the suns out, I shoot for flare. Period. I've had about 100 shoots this year and from the looks of things, The beam focused 4-6 times. Different days? Same Days? Who know? It's probably tough to do actually. Your chances greater with how often you shoot into the sun I imagine.
I'm not buying this that it is flare. I had 2 5D1 bodies exhibit the strange looking marks, but nothing was wrong with it. I can understand the whole "large magnifying glass" concept, but I'm not buying it. Light coming through the lens is focused and splits the image at the center of the aperture, NOT at the are where the affected "melted" area is. I have my doubts about it, but if it comes back fixed I'd be curious to what they find.
Actually -- if you think about the main diff between 5D and 5DII it's the live view feature where the shutter opens up completely exposing the sensor for long periods of time.
Sam did you ever use live view in composing flare shots?
MPLS_photog wrote:
Actually -- if you think about the main diff between 5D and 5DII it's the live view feature where the shutter opens up completely exposing the sensor for long periods of time.
Sam did you ever use live view in composing flare shots?
Exactly what I meant, I was sure I'd seen Sam doing flare long before the 5DII was even announced, and presumably the 5D classic hasn't done some sort of Wicked Witch of the West act and melted?
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