Sam Hassas wrote:
Impressive Jer. First shot is so good. Just....tasty, can't explain it.
I'm mixed about spilling your secret sauce here. I think your awesome for helping out the peeps, (in seriousness, I built a freakin 6 figure business on what I've learn here on FM. I'd say 80% of my how-to goodies came from here. How can I not give back?) Still though, shot two is so unique and impressive to the point, I'd rather the man behind the curtain had stayed there. To have that lighting AND the DOF would/will give you a look SOOOO your own and I can count on one hand how many I've seen adopt these techniques. Granted the info is out there and for the taking, still, it's wise to hold some cards. In short, be selfish at times.
jeremy_clay wrote:
meh, let them try. It takes more then $199 filter and some 580's to make the shot what it is. The secret's in the PP. 80%.
Or more then 4 x 580's plus HSS and radio poppers, which is another way to get shallow DOF with daylight strobe action. Does kill the flash power though, have to get the lights close!
jeremy_clay wrote:
meh, let them try. It takes more then $199 filter and some 580's to make the shot what it is. The secret's in the PP. 80%.
That is funny! I was just thinking the same thing!!! There is no way I could ever get those shots even if I do get the filter!!! You are a genius!!
Those darn PP secrets!!!! lol!!!
jeremy_clay wrote:
meh, let them try. It takes more then $199 filter and some 580's to make the shot what it is. The secret's in the PP. 80%.
That's my thought too...Jeremy is (imho) one of the five most talented photographers here. What really makes his work stand out is his post, comps, creativity, and I think maybe most importantly his ability to get the most out of his clients. I've probably got more technical knowledge on lighting than he does, but I can't hold a candle to what he's able to produce. I can tell his lighting setups just by looking the images, but that doesn't mean I can get the expressions, emotions, poses and everything else he can. Not to mention he only seems to have good looking people . The whole ND filter/big flash thing certainly isn't anything new...it's been around forever. If a couple people add it to their bag of tricks thanks to this forum, great. It's only one more tool in the toolbox. It's not going to make a master mechanic out of you .
Anyway, it's all good...he aint got nothin' to worry about.
I have the Singh Ray version of this filter and I love it. I have yet to use it when using lighting, but I look forward to the opportunity. I have used it for motion in direct sunlight and it comes in very handy. This lightcraft version looks looks like a winner. A few examples:
Jeremy, I know this is an old thread, but I'm hoping you could shed some light (no pun intended) on this technique.
I ask because I'm being have a shoot coming up to get some exterior shots of a gas station convenience store. I'd like to use this technique. I have the 2 to 8 stop LCW Fader ND, but not sure if I will use it in favor of just stopping down the background and using my (2) 550ex + (2) 580ex Canon Speedlites to light the building fascia. If needed, I could also through in an old Sunpak, via p-nut slave.
What I'm wondering is if I have enough light to pull this off with much effectiveness. The store front is 62' total length. I only know there is a ceiling height of 11'. In any case, it's a single floor building; not sure of the roof height. Do I have enough light?
Yeah, heck... I thought this was a new thread, ready to click on the (now dead) link and buy one of these filters! Jeremy if you see this could you please hook us up with a current link? Awesome shots, btw! Thanks!
Bright, I wouldn't use this technique, details will suffer for something of the nature you're shooting. You'll probably be alright, depending how you intend to set everything up -- large reflectors will probably help though. I don't really use my filter anymore, actually, because AF suffered and I found it easier to just buy better strobe units.
Some hella nice comments in this thread, geez. ty all, was nice to reread it.