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p.1 #1 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


There is a rumor about the future xxD from Canon, and is saying something about the AF system: 13 AF points.

I was thinking about the layout of these points, and I draw 3 possibilities:


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The black points are selectable, the gray ones are assist point. My opinion is: i like the first model.

What do you think ?

Aug 08, 2009 at 10:02 AM
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p.1 #2 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


I think I would prefer the idea of 13 real cross AF points instead a 5D AF with two assist points less.

And the diamond layout is not "my cup of tea" I would prefer the third one with the four points you put as assist points located two at each side and make it more as a rectangular layout.



Aug 08, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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p.1 #3 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


How about just 1 Point that works well?

Aug 08, 2009 at 11:09 AM
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p.1 #4 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


lol i'll take 2 or 3

Aug 08, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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p.1 #5 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


Why why Canon...why only 13 ?. Can you make 19 or somethin....is it too expensive to add some more....Kwanon God ?.

Aug 08, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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p.1 #6 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


Dawei Ye wrote:
How about just 1 Point that works well?

They all work well - in the right hands...


Aug 08, 2009 at 01:40 PM
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p.1 #7 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


Which University do I enrol in to learn how to autofocus on something because I really want to improve.

All I know is that I point AF sensor at an object. But Object not in focus consistently even if camera is static. Therefore I not happy chappy.

Aug 08, 2009 at 03:02 PM
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p.1 #8 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


I'll take 4 that work perfectly. Center, far left and right, top center.

Aug 08, 2009 at 04:11 PM
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p.1 #9 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


kewlcanon wrote:
Why why Canon...why only 13 ?. Can you make 19 or somethin....is it too expensive to add some more....Kwanon God ?.


The question is why in the world do you think it's actually 13?

Aug 08, 2009 at 04:13 PM
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p.1 #10 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


Whatever number of points Canon has chosen, the layout will match the AF assist grid of the current flashes.

I like #1; I want a new xxD for when I can't get enough pixels per duck with the 1D2, and I think the assist points would be better for flight shots.

Aug 08, 2009 at 05:27 PM
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p.1 #11 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


citro wrote:
What do you think ?


Show us facts, not fantasy. The older Canon cameras had 45 AF points and Nikon has 51 AF points.

EBH

Aug 08, 2009 at 05:44 PM
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p.1 #12 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


Just responding to OP, it could be worse though...say 9 ?

M Vers wrote:
kewlcanon wrote:
Why why Canon...why only 13 ?. Can you make 19 or somethin....is it too expensive to add some more....Kwanon God ?.


The question is why in the world do you think it's actually 13?



Aug 08, 2009 at 05:52 PM
 



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p.1 #13 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


kewlcanon wrote:
Why why Canon...why only 13 ?. Can you make 19 or somethin....is it too expensive to add some more....Kwanon God ?.


Jesus Christ... Kwanon is a Goddess.

Aug 08, 2009 at 11:52 PM
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p.1 #14 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


My preferences would be for #1 or #3.
A cluster of points in the center are needed for better overall AF accuracy.


Aug 09, 2009 at 01:11 AM
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p.1 #15 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


They won't change the location of existing focus points. It would be a problem for their flashes, which already know where the points are and use them for the AF assist beam.

Aug 09, 2009 at 01:28 AM
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p.1 #16 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


adam613 wrote:
They won't change the location of existing focus points. It would be a problem for their flashes, which already know where the points are and use them for the AF assist beam.


I thought this was done by command from the body? What happens when you have a 1D series, which is laid out differently?

The AF module is a RISC processor that passes the data to the Digic processor. Before adding any more AF points, the first step Canon must take is upgrade the RISC processor in the AF module and have new software for it. In my opinion, 13 AF points, if all cross type with Digic V or Dual Digic IV (unlikely due to battery power consumption), with a newer RISC processor plus software will be VERY potent. It will be very fast and accurate and will exceed even the Nikon D3X in AF performance. I think Canon is much superior to Nikon in software implementation.

Aug 09, 2009 at 03:32 AM
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p.1 #17 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


I like using one never really take it off. I did use all 9 awhile back and I was kind of impressed better than what I was expecting

Aug 09, 2009 at 03:37 AM
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p.1 #18 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


tanglefoot47 wrote:
I like using one never really take it off. I did use all 9 awhile back and I was kind of impressed better than what I was expecting


Which makes me think, how many of you are actually shooting with more than one AF point?

Still have to understand how you guys are coping with BIF, sorry

Aug 09, 2009 at 03:46 AM
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p.1 #19 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


EB-1 wrote:
citro wrote:
What do you think ?


Show us facts, not fantasy. The older Canon cameras had 45 AF points and Nikon has 51 AF points.

EBH


No facts. 13 points AF is just a rumor. My post was about a personal preference (my personal preference) regarding this scenario.


kewlcanon wrote:
Just responding to OP, it could be worse though...say 9 ?


It is something I am really considering


Aug 09, 2009 at 05:49 AM
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p.1 #20 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


Three would be a major leap forward, since even the much-hyped Nikon AF didn't get sensors in the corners. If there's any truth to the rumor, one and two seem more likely.

Aug 09, 2009 at 07:04 AM
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p.1 #21 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


A 9+6 like the one on 5D/5DII will greatly help AI-Servo success rate.

Aug 09, 2009 at 08:05 AM
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p.1 #22 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


Give me 9 high accuracy cross types at the thirds and center, then cluster assist points around those... Software could easily program the flash to do anything using AF data from a pseudo 9 point AF diamond .

The best solution would be a frame covering AF grid (cross type) interspersed with assist points and let ME select the layout that I WANT. not everyone shoots sports.

Aug 09, 2009 at 02:41 PM
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p.1 #23 · Rumor talk: 13 AF points on future xxD


I'll take #2 as all 13 can be selectable.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


Aug 09, 2009 at 10:26 PM




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