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Archive 2009 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???

  
 
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p.4 #1 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


Just to refresh the memory:

The last time Canon Inc announced new cameras and lenses during August 19/20 period was in 2007 with the EOS 40D and EOS-1Ds Mark III.

It was Aug 20 in Asia and still Aug 19 in North America and some parts of Europe when the announcement was made - simultaneous global announcements then!

The hypes and interests over these 2 EOS models lasted about 3-4 days until Nikon's announcements (Aug 23) of the D300 and D3 plus 5 new AF-S lenses equipped with Nano coating!

There is a historical meaning for choosing Aug 19 though.

It is also the date photographers celebrate World Photography Day - a lesser known fact among pixel peepers but for those who have already gotten into photography since the film era would know of its significant. For those who have just heard of its significant for the 1st time, just Google it under "World Photography Day" and you will get the results and the historical significant behind this date.



Aug 10, 2009 at 05:45 AM
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p.4 #2 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


sav1977 wrote:
I frequently shoot a 20D and 40D, hanging from my neck together...ISO and mirror slap are the only significant differences.


Maybe you're using a creaky old lens then - my 40D's AF is very obviously better than either of my 30Ds.



Aug 10, 2009 at 05:51 AM
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p.4 #3 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


I notice that the price of the 1DSIII from some UK sellers has just dropped like a stone.....


Aug 10, 2009 at 05:59 AM
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p.4 #4 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


If something does come out, it may need to be a new DIGIC.
If you take the resolution times the fps, you get the camera throughput.
1DIII = 10.08 mp * 10 fps = 100.78 mps

The 1DIII is about 100 mps, the 50D is 95 mps, the 1DsIII is 105 mps and the 5DII is 82mps.

The 1D2 was 65 mps, the 40D was 65 mps, 1DSII was 83 mps, the 5D was 51 fps.

It is interesting that the 1DSII was Digic 2 at but the 40D was Digic 3.

To get a 1d camera 10fps at 20mp, you need 200 mps.

SD cards only write at 4mps to 10mps, so you will need huge buffers in the camera and observe long write delays.
It takes 1 second to shoot 10 images, but can take 50 seconds to write them to a card.

I think the next mps will be no more than 150mps, which will put the 1D no more than 16mp and the 1Ds no more than 30mp.
The 1D pixels will always be about half of the 1Ds pixels solely because of the difference in the frame rate.

The only camera line with room for more pixels based on todays fps is the Rebels. But canon has always kept that line under the fps capability of the current DIGIC.



Aug 10, 2009 at 07:47 AM
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p.4 #5 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


lordcarl wrote:
The hypes and interests over these 2 EOS models lasted about 3-4 days until Nikon's announcements (Aug 23) of the D300 and D3 plus 5 new AF-S lenses equipped with Nano coating!


Given the financial state Nikon is in right now, I am willing to bet we won't be seeing REVOLUTIONARY products from them for the next few years.



Aug 10, 2009 at 08:26 AM
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p.4 #6 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


thw2 wrote:
Given the financial state Nikon is in right now, I am willing to bet we won't be seeing REVOLUTIONARY products from them for the next few years.


I believe Nikon are aiming to release at least another 13 cameras with 12MP over the next 12 months, and will have all Canon's bases covered (3 times over). Due to the expense of the D3X, next year it will be sold as 2 12MP cameras instead, completing the line-up of 12MP cameras



Aug 10, 2009 at 08:55 AM
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p.4 #7 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


KIDERAL wrote:
If something does come out, it may need to be a new DIGIC.
If you take the resolution times the fps, you get the camera throughput.
1DIII = 10.08 mp * 10 fps = 100.78 mps

The 1DIII is about 100 mps, the 50D is 95 mps, the 1DsIII is 105 mps and the 5DII is 82mps.

The 1D2 was 65 mps, the 40D was 65 mps, 1DSII was 83 mps, the 5D was 51 fps.

It is interesting that the 1DSII was Digic 2 at but the 40D was Digic 3.

To get a 1d camera 10fps at 20mp, you need 200 mps.

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UDMA CF is much faster than SD, so the buffer dump time won't be so bad. However, I COMPLETELY agree that the 1d4 will likely be 16MP, with an outside possibility of 18MP. Nikon has realized that 12MP is a great balance between file size, IQ, diffraction, and noise and is standardizing on that while also offering the d3x for those that print really big. It appears that Canon is settling around 15MP (leveraging gapless microlenses), with 21 being the fullframe "sweet spot". This might change in the future, but they are coming up against practical limits. I actually prefer to shoot my 50D in medium simply because that is "good enough" and the file sizes are more manageable



Aug 10, 2009 at 09:07 AM
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p.4 #8 · Announcement Day! August 19, 2009 ???


Nikon needs to keep up with the improvements otherwise they will be in a bigger trouble financially. So I'm not sure about not seeing new and maybe revolutionary products from Nikon in the near future.


Aug 10, 2009 at 09:23 AM
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