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Archive 2009 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF

PetKal
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p.1 #1 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


This was my first more serious attempt to do pijuns (or anything) in flight using the Canon's EF 15mm f/2.8 Fish Eye on 1D MkIIN.
Although now I think I know what I need to change (improve) the next time around, I am afraid the lens doesn't hold much promise for BIF photography.
I shall try again to do Mallard ducks this fall. Being bigger, slower on takeoff and better AF targets, the results there could be better.

At any rate, as a curiosity, and for your entertainment, here are three PIF shots with 15 FE.

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Aug 05, 2009 at 07:11 PM
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p.1 #2 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Do you have a BIF with a pinhole camera ?


Aug 05, 2009 at 07:14 PM
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p.1 #3 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Well, it certainly creates an interesting perspective. I imagine that getting close enough would be a real challenge. Might I just suggest covering your entire body with birdseed before trying to shoot PIF with a 15mm fisheye. Oh, and if you do you may want to carry an umbrella.

Not only are you a non-conformist (and I say that in the nicest possible way ), but you are a true experimentalist. You should note that I see that as a good thing.



Aug 05, 2009 at 07:22 PM
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p.1 #4 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


kewlcanon wrote:
Do you have a BIF with a pinhole camera ?


I'll leave that to some true BIF masters......like Jim Neiger and Colin Key.



Aug 05, 2009 at 07:27 PM
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David Israel wrote:
Well, it certainly creates an interesting perspective. I imagine that getting close enough would be a real challenge. Might I just suggest covering your entire body with birdseed before trying to shoot PIF with a 15mm fisheye. Oh, and if you do you may want to carry an umbrella.

Not only are you a non-conformist (and I say that in the nicest possible way ), but you are a true experimentalist. You should note that I see that as a good thing.


Thanx for your kind input, Dave. A few years back I started doing BIF like what bird photographers do....using 300mm-500mm lenses etc. Then, got bored with that and started to put some of my less used lenses to a bit more challenging tasks, on fast flying birds which are plentiful enough......in summer, pijuns and terns are perfect for that in my area. Lottsa fun.



Aug 05, 2009 at 07:35 PM
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p.1 #6 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


You are truly a strange man

(sorry, I mean versatile )



Aug 05, 2009 at 07:49 PM
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p.1 #7 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


stanj wrote:
You are truly a strange man

(sorry, I mean versatile )


Nazdar Stan. What will you think of me once I start posting my IR BIF photos ?

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Aug 05, 2009 at 08:29 PM
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p.1 #8 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Are these heavily cropped? They don't look like ones taken by a FE, even on a 1.3x crop body.


Aug 05, 2009 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #9 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


A few moments before the take-off.
As if the pijun was asking ..."Master, you ready ? Here I go."

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Aug 05, 2009 at 09:05 PM
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p.1 #10 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


PetKal wrote:
Nazdar Stan. What will you think of me once I start posting my IR BIF photos ?


Not a fan of IR, must say - the subject matter doesn't help



Aug 06, 2009 at 12:08 AM
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p.1 #11 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


David Israel wrote:
Well, it certainly creates an interesting perspective. I imagine that getting close enough would be a real challenge.



Not for pigeons here in Toronto. It's a challenge not to step on them as they generally don't move out of your way.



Aug 06, 2009 at 06:27 AM
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p.1 #12 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Again these don't look like the perspectives of FE unless they are heavily cropped.


Aug 06, 2009 at 10:56 AM
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p.1 #13 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Jayem1 wrote:
Again these don't look like the perspectives of FE unless they are heavily cropped.


Pigeons aren't strictly geometric objects, nor are our human eyes (except PetKal's) calibrated to _exactly_ tell what they should look like



Aug 06, 2009 at 11:27 AM
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Well, they had to be cropped quite a bit, and images 2 & 3 do show a fish-eye type of distortion.
Now, if I could get within a couple of inches of a flying pijun, then cropping would be reduced and IQ would be significantly better.
The only problem is how to take a picture at such proximity to a fast flying target.
A lexan wind tube with a bird flying in it would help. So would having a pijun fly against a bungee cord tied to his leg.



Aug 06, 2009 at 11:49 AM
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p.1 #15 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Peter you again demonstrate your prowess in BIF. May I request a tilt shift BIF? I want to see them prospectively corrected.


Aug 06, 2009 at 11:52 AM
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p.1 #16 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


PetKal wrote:
Now, if I could get within a couple of inches of a flying pijun, then cropping would be reduced and IQ would be significantly better.


Have you tried wearing a giant pigeon suit (or alternatively, a pijun suit)? You might wanna go to your local giant bird-suit outlet mall and try one.

HTH,
Omar

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Aug 06, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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p.1 #17 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Jayem1 wrote:
Again these don't look like the perspectives of FE unless they are heavily cropped.

Stanj wrote:
Pigeons aren't strictly geometric objects, nor are our human eyes (except PetKal's) calibrated to _exactly_ tell what they should look like



To have pigeons fill the frames like shown here, that would mean he had to be inches away from the birds. If so, the birds would appear disproportion between say its head and wings (distortion is huge at this close distance). Try to take a self portrait and also fill the frame. You will look like a funny man. Also judging from the background, just doesn't look like ones from a FE.

I wonder why Mr. PetKal hasn't clarified that.

Sorry, PetKal, I was responding to Stanj and didn't see your comment you already posted. However, if you could post an uncropped image by FE, that would illustrate my point.

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Aug 06, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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p.1 #18 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Paolo Dolina wrote:
Peter you again demonstrate your prowess in BIF. May I request a tilt shift BIF? I want to see them prospectively corrected.



Paolo, that's on my list of things to try next. Unfortunately, I lost an auction on the TS-E 90mm a couple of weeks ago, so I don't have a TS lens yet.



Aug 06, 2009 at 12:01 PM
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p.1 #19 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


Jayem1 wrote:
To have pigeons fill the frames like shown here, that would mean he had to be inches away from the birds. If so, the birds would appear disproportion between say its head and wings (distortion is huge at this close distance). Try to take a self portrait and also fill the frame. You will look like a funny man. Also judging from the background, just doesn't look like ones from a FE.

I wonder why Mr. PetKal hasn't clarified that.

Sorry, PetKal, I was responding to Stanj and didn't see your comment you already posted. However, if you could post an
...Show more

Since disproving his shots are not stuffed Pigeons on a stick I have for some time suspected that Peter is in fact is a living statue hence his uncanny ability to BIF with really short FL.



Aug 06, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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p.1 #20 · 15mm Fish Eye does BIF


omarlyn wrote:
Have you tried wearing a giant pigeon suit (or alternatively, a pijun suit)? You might wanna go to your local giant bird-suit outlet mall and try one.

HTH,
Omar


Not a bad idea, Omar.
BIF Shooter's Camo Suit

Shooting pijuns while they are grounded is very easy with the 15mm FE.

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