Hi this all depends on what you want to shoot and what is available now.
I am a biased Canon shooter - wild life and pictorial and I am very happy with the Canon bodies I have had and still have.
I have the 1D mark 111 and its a wow camera and the 5D and 5dmark 11 are great. Most important is the correct purchase of lenses and the Canon L series are excellent.
The proof of the pudding is to try things out for yourself and go by what you experience and what a good pro shop would advise.
slrl0ver wrote:
Hi all,
First, this is NOT meant to be an inflammatory post.
Does anyone have a "gut feel" if Canon will introduce a successor to the 5D.MK2 that will have improved AF and weather-sealing?
I'm considering jumping into dSLR (from 35mm film) and I really appreciated the high-end AF on the EOS 1V. Right now I don't own any lenses or camera bodies, so I'm starting out fresh. Since EOS mount accepts so many different types of lenses (with adapters), the 5D/5D.MK2 route seems very attractive to me.
However, I can't ignore the superior build of the D700 and its advanced AF. I just want to know if Canon will catch-up, or if they would see adding such features to their 5D-series as sacrificing their high-end 1D-series.
I don't think the OP is asking about a 5D2 successor per se, but the long-sought EOS 3D (compact, pro FF camera).
To wit: the answer is "maybe", but I find the 5D2 almost perfectly designed for its target market and price point. For me, the AF is fine for most scenarios, and where it falls short, I can live with it in exchange for the amazing image quality at the price point. I rented a D700 before I bought my 5D2s.
vpk24_astro wrote:
It doesn't make sense to put the 1D AF in the 5D bodies. If you want everything and the kitchen sink, you've to be willing to pay for them.
not everyone wants a brick though
and some even want to use APS-C
thus nikon puts better AF in D700/D300
in fact, in the film days, canon also used to put better AF modules is non-giant brick bodies too
canon's current situation is actually the odd man out
Some people here are like little children... "give me, give me"
If Canon was going to give the 5D pro AF and weather sealing then they would have no choice but to sell it for close to the 1DsmkIII price and then everyone will complain about the price
Then people say "but the D700......." Sure the D700 has things that the 5DII hasn't, but guess what, Nikon decided to give it a low MP FF sensor rather than the one from the D3x
Get over it..... and just deal with what is available on the market now or what has been announced but not delivered.
George.ML wrote:
My gut feel is that the mythical 3D will finally materialize sometime in 2011.
Canon has so far ignored the Nikon D300 and the D700, but Nikon will have a 24mp D700x soon and a 15-16mp successor to the D700 in the next two years.
Canon will only be losing sales to Nikon if they stubbornly keep the pro AF to the 1-series only.
Expect the 3D to be priced at $3500+, though.
If the camera was to appear, it will most likely be priced just marginally under the 1Ds4.
RDKirk wrote:
The xxD cycles are about 1/3 to 1/2 as long as the 5D cycles have been (so far). I suspect that we will see either 50D or 60D focusing in the 5D3.
ugh i hope not that would mean worse af than the 5dm2 (if 50D at AF at least)!
I suffer the 5D2 focus system because I like smaller lighter bodies. Size-weight matters more to me. I 'upgraded' from 1Ds3 to 5D2. The point is that for me, and I may not be alone, it's no good saying "if you want better AF get a 1 series". I'm not prepared to carry that weight, and so I'm stuck with one reliable AF point. I would pay MORE for a 5D2 with 1-series AF than I would for a 1-series. I hope someone at Canon is listening, because the insistence on non-professional AF in the 5D is getting very tiring.
Agree with brainiac about the 5DII AF (though couldn't go so far as to pay 1-series prices). So far (still getting used to the II) I think that the AF on the 5DII isn't even as good as on the 5D, which worked OK usually.
It just occurred to me that one of the penalties of "professional autofocusing" as Canon currently engineers it probably requires significant power (given, for instance, that it must drive a very fast shutter and power two processors).
That is, it has up until now. But we also have a 5D2 that is amazingly efficient, perhaps as much as 75 or 80 percent more efficient than the 5D1 (comsidering the number of exposures we can get out of the mah of an LP-E6).
To the initiator of this thread, you seem potentially interested in the use of alternate lenses on a 5d2? Like many here, I do own a 5d2 and use a lot of alternate lenses. If you are considering that route, one point I would like to make to you from the outset is that the use of the alternate lenses can create metering problems on the 5d2. Well, at least with my copy of it, I should say, I don't know how others have fared. So it is not quite the "best of both worlds" scenario I had hoped for--using the alternate lenses does not take best advantage of the camera's metering system. This is usually OK for me, because I tend to be very deliberate, and I usually work on a tripod (I shoot mostly old churches nowadays). But sometimes it can be a drag, I often find I have to screw around with things a lot, and I frequently wish it could be a bit easier, like using the native lenses. I don't know if I would persist with the alternate lenses if I had to work very fast and get things right asap.
I have not used one of the more pro-level 1 series digital bodies, but I wonder if the metering with the alt lenses might be better there. I do agree the that the 5d2 produces some fantastic images, and it is certainly the best digital camera I have ever used. But there are some aspects of it which are definitely not pro caliber--such as the AF system which has been discussed. And I wonder about the metering as well sometimes. My film body is an EOS 3, and I definitely feel that it is superior to my 5d2 when it comes to both AF and metering.
slrl0ver wrote:
....3. Personally, I think people WOULD go for the 1D series, even if there was a 5D that was mostly equivalent (say AF + weather-resistance). I say that because those who want a tank, with vertical grip integrated, high-FPS, dual card storage, etc really want that. The D700 and D3 seem mostly equivalent, but I think there's still demand for D3. I congratulate Nikon for putting their high-end AF from D3 into the D700 and D300. Personally, even if I could get a 1Ds for $1400 I don't think I would because what I do doesn't need the tank build...
Your right on the money here IMO. Screw the damn video. Give me a better AF (it doesn't need to be 1D level AF, but somewhere closer than the 5DII is) and 5fps in sRAW. Canon dissapointed me with the 5DII, I'm keeping my 5D "classic" for now.
brainiac wrote:
...The point is that for me, and I may not be alone, it's no good saying "if you want better AF get a 1 series". I'm not prepared to carry that weight, and so I'm stuck with one reliable AF point. I would pay MORE for a 5D2 with 1-series AF than I would for a 1-series. I hope someone at Canon is listening, because the insistence on non-professional AF in the 5D is getting very tiring.
I'm not prepared to carry that weight, and so I'm stuck with one reliable AF point. I would pay MORE for a 5D2 with 1-series AF than I would for a 1-series. I hope someone at Canon is listening, because the insistence on non-professional AF in the 5D is getting very tiring.
I think people are barking up the wrong tree, then. Instead of complaining about the autofocusing of the 5D, it might be more beneficial to complain about the weight of the 1-Series.
"My husband and I don't like HD video ..."