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p.4 #1 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


"And it's simply not breathtakingly sharp; I've seen sharper pixels from my Nikon D60"

Specularist - Please - post a comparable Architectural subject image so we can see what you're saying.



Jul 12, 2009 at 09:05 AM
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p.4 #2 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


Provocative first post from a Nikon user... in a Canon board!!

nMontag, isn't the TSE17 the widest T/S lens? One of its kind? if so, what are we going to compare it with?



Jul 12, 2009 at 09:19 AM
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p.4 #3 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


Specularist, welcome to the forum. Since you chose to compare pixels with a 1.5 crop camera, we will need to see some corner crops from your D60 with an 11mm TS lens, fully shifted, to get the same perspective. And please include a resized version of the complete 40 MP stitched image.



Jul 12, 2009 at 09:45 AM
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p.4 #4 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


People who think this isn't sharp have never used a wide angle tilt shift before. At full shift, that kind of resolution is absolutely exceptional. The center crop on this image would be a corner crop if the image were unshifted.


Jul 12, 2009 at 10:01 AM
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p.4 #5 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


Jman13 wrote:
People who think this isn't sharp have never used a wide angle tilt shift before. At full shift, that kind of resolution is absolutely exceptional.


Bears repeating. I have a 24 TSE (Mk I) - it's a very nice lens, but this new 17 is exceptional.



Jul 12, 2009 at 09:30 PM
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p.4 #6 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


Doug,

Just revisited this awesome shot as I just ordered this lens today(last one in stock).
Did you happen to take a closer shot of the altar in this beautiful church?
My next credit card bill is going to be a "WOW.



Jul 14, 2009 at 03:32 PM
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p.4 #7 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


Never mind, just saw the closeup of the altar. Thanks.


Jul 14, 2009 at 03:34 PM
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p.4 #8 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


Got punked by amazon. The one last copy they had listed as in stock from Norman Camera was a mistake they said and they don't have any in stock.
I thought it was too good to be true that one was available.
Should sue their a$$ for distress due to teasing me with this false available copy.
Anyone know where to find a copy?



Jul 15, 2009 at 01:16 AM
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p.4 #9 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


WOW!


Jul 15, 2009 at 04:46 AM
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p.4 #10 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


It is a very good result, especially when you consider that this is a 17mm! shift!! I'd like to see what it can do at f8. Should be slightly sharper.

Specularist - care to show us a similar crop from full shift corners on a _21/24_Mpixel_camera_ with any previous shift lens of your choice? Sure, a 50 f1.8 on a D30 will give you sharper pixels. That means nothing. Go and learn something about _magnification_. Don't tell me you switched and now have envy... ;-)



Jul 15, 2009 at 05:02 AM
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p.4 #11 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


I think you need f11 to pull in the corners when shifted. The lens is amazingly sharp wide open when unshifted but the corners are, as expected, slightly softer. When shifted to the maximum, as this shot was , f 11 seems to be the sweet spot. However with less aggressive shift f8 would give a slightly sharper image. Also, as I mentioned with the stitched image, no sharpening had been applied. With proper sharpening it would be difficult to see the difference between f8 & f11 IMO. You yourself Brainiac once posted that sometimes we are too concerned about slight defraction since sharpening can compensate for it fairly well. You see I read your posts.


Jul 15, 2009 at 08:44 AM
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p.4 #12 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


Doug Ball wrote:
You yourself Brainiac once posted that sometimes we are too concerned about slight defraction since sharpening can compensate for it fairly well. You see I read your posts.


Dammit you got me! ;-) I was just curious to see if there was a noticeable difference. I know it will be small enough not to worry about...



Jul 15, 2009 at 08:53 AM
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p.4 #13 · 17 TS-E; Detail intensive subject


I don't really think it is that noticeable. While I've got you I must say that I have really enjoyed your posts in the past. Thanks for showing up.


Jul 15, 2009 at 08:55 AM
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