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Archive 2009 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!

  
 
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Empire wrote:
I only wish there was a decent copy of the FL 55 in the mix. i really can't believe how well mine performs. Unfortunately its t-stop is probably closer to 1.6 than 1.2 but other than that...


I agree... I keep getting fantastic results from the FL.



May 10, 2009 at 06:27 PM
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p.2 #2 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Daniel Heineck wrote:
of the 8, I prefer the second to the left, upper row one the best. Thanks for doing this! I hope it is fun having so many different renderings available at hand.

Edit--I guess I like the FD 50mm 1.2. Funny-I don't remember seeing the lens ID's the first time I looked.



DITTO !!



May 10, 2009 at 08:03 PM
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p.2 #3 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


The CA control in the FD 1.2 is very impressive. Far better than the others
I have both the Pentax and Rokkor myself. How difficult is it to convert the FD 50 1.2? Which version of the FD 50 1.2 ?





May 10, 2009 at 08:34 PM
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p.2 #4 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Dimitri, great comparisons! Have you tried the 55mm fd ssc aspherical? I hear good things from leica guru erwin puts, I'm considering it either to adapt to my rangefinder or to modify for eos. My mirror is around 2.5mm shaved, what would you suggest? Thanks

Daniel



May 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM
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p.2 #5 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Daniel, i have not tried fd 55 1.2 ssc asph, but it should be more or less similar to fd 50 1.2L (sharp and contrasty wideopen) i know Convert1 has one with 5D (his page http://www.flickr.com/photos/convert1/page8/ )


May 12, 2009 at 04:45 PM
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p.2 #6 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!





and for the dessert - i will show the same scene and really crazy alt gear (it is half finished - tuning infinity)

http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/pr0/41852/531290.jpg
http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/pr0/41852/531291.jpg
http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/pr0/41852/531292.jpg



Edited on May 13, 2009 at 06:18 AM · View previous versions



May 12, 2009 at 04:49 PM
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p.2 #7 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Thanks for doing this test. Well done!

My conclusion on the most recent group (55-58); the Konica 57 and Minolta 58 really do perform incredibly as substitutes for the very expensive Noct-Nikkor. The Noct will always have the advantage with point light sources at night, but that's really the only ace up its sleeve. The Rokkor's advantage over the Konica is compatibility; they both require conversion, but the Konica requires a much heavier mirror shave on one's 5D.

Later I'll have to compare these all to the 50s, too...

Thanks again! I think I have almost chosen which one I will get.

EDIT:

After a quick look at the 50s, it is easy for me to see that the only 50 that compares favorably to the Konica 57, Rokkor 58 and Noct 58, regarding bokeh, is the EF 50L. The EF 50L also seems to have more DOF than the 55-58 group (which makes sense, of course).

Now I am certain which one I will buy.



May 12, 2009 at 05:03 PM
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p.2 #8 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Thanks for those examples! Good job!


May 12, 2009 at 05:29 PM
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p.2 #9 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Dim,

Great stuff, again!

-but how the heck did you get a Konica onto a 5D? I thought that was impossible?



May 12, 2009 at 10:20 PM
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p.2 #10 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


The kind of funny thing here, is staring into the faces of all those lenses, like little school children - all types of "fit and finish" and "exterior design" - and various names etched in from all the manufacturers.

But once you turn them on the side, I chuckle to see them all wearing "Canon" diapers (lens caps)



May 12, 2009 at 11:32 PM
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p.2 #11 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Dimtry,
Thanks for all the good work.
Do you know how hard the FD 55 SSC is to convert? Will it hit the mirror on a 1ds3?



May 13, 2009 at 02:18 AM
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p.2 #12 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


On the flower shot.

Amazing the EF50L1.2 would have to be the worst performer.

The FDn50L1.2 is noticeably better than the EF50L1.2

The EF50/1.4 is pretty good also.



May 13, 2009 at 07:14 AM
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p.2 #13 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Cableaddict, Konica AR 57 1.2 on 5D with infinity focus - yes it it is quite challenging task - but the recipe is the same - more mirror shaving and some trimming inside the 5D mirror box

http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/pr2/41852/460805.jpg

http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/pr2/41852/502188.jpg

http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/pr1/41852/502189.jpg



wayne seltzer, check Convert1 flckr page for the samples/ If you need infinity - yes you need to trimm the mirror and of course you can position the rear lens floating element in the position when the mirror would not hit but focus would be about 5-10 meters.



May 13, 2009 at 12:36 PM
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p.2 #14 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Here is opposite drawing style between OM zuiko 50 1.2 and smooth Konica AR 57mm f1.2




May 13, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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p.2 #15 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


I have restored the original shootout here
http://album.foto.ru/photos/26407/



May 14, 2009 at 08:01 AM
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p.2 #16 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Dear Dmitry, all the links are dead.... including the restored - would love to see this!

EDIT everything works again -

Edited on May 15, 2009 at 04:32 PM · View previous versions



May 14, 2009 at 08:37 AM
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p.2 #17 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


The noct nikkor is astoundingly good, loooove that bokeh.


May 14, 2009 at 04:14 PM
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p.2 #18 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


Am I the only one that noticed the mamiya 645 with 85L attached?!
All i can say is WOW dimitry. You never run out of impressive mod's to do!
Definitely one of the crazier things I've seen lately, along with some guy who modified his holga to take EF lenses (why oh why bother..)

Is the mamiya going to be shooting medium format film cropped square (with heavy vignette I dont doubt) or digital or even 35mm film? quite an interesting idea



May 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
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p.2 #19 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


No, checkout separate thread on this:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/771979



May 15, 2009 at 11:34 AM
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p.2 #20 · Major 50mm and 58mm shootout 2!


I saw a Konica 57mm f/1.2 today for €229, in case anyone is interested. Wüstefeld in Berlin, Germany.


May 15, 2009 at 03:53 PM
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