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p.1 #1 · blind: PDV E-Session



Comment and Critique the following images. The blind approach is done so that posters can get a fair and honest assessment of their work regardless of their social standing in the forum.

No guessing who is in the thread.
Guessing 'jesus' on the first post could sway the outcome of the thread. It will be up to the photographer to 'out' him/herself when and if they feel its appropriate.

*requesting blunt brutal analysis*



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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_01.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_02.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_03.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_04.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_05.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_06.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_07.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_08.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_09.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_10.jpg

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http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/929362/FM_11.jpg

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Apr 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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p.1 #2 · blind: PDV E-Session


Try reducing the size of these images to something like 900x600 px.


Apr 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #3 · blind: PDV E-Session


Huge noisy files: I can has?

Resizing would be helpful.



Apr 14, 2009 at 12:45 PM
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p.1 #4 · blind: PDV E-Session


Thanks for posting them so small. Its often difficult to pull up the big ass images on my HP mini . I'm glad I don't have to scroll to see the entire image


Apr 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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p.1 #5 · blind: PDV E-Session


By request, I removed the resized copies... doubleblind will post the updated files

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Apr 14, 2009 at 01:01 PM
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p.1 #6 · blind: PDV E-Session


Wrong white balance, the skin looks green. It doesn't look intentional.

Images too dark overall. #7 seems out of focus.



Apr 14, 2009 at 01:17 PM
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Apr 14, 2009 at 01:18 PM
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p.1 #8 · blind: PDV E-Session


Color is way off... couple looks green.


Apr 14, 2009 at 01:52 PM
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p.1 #9 · blind: PDV E-Session


Just because you can take pictures in the dark - does not mean you should.

photo-graphy. Loosely from 'light study.'

The curiosity of darkness and absent light diminishes a very lively setting and a vibrant couple. This warrants a do-over.



Apr 14, 2009 at 01:54 PM
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p.1 #10 · blind: PDV E-Session


- Images look really green, and my monitor is almost b&w it's so crap right now.

The fake tilt/shift/gaussian blur whatever looks more like lens problems then a special effect

- These are awful. I'm sorry. Maybe if you fixed the WB in #8, because they both seem in focus @ this size and it's a genuine, happy moment.



Apr 14, 2009 at 02:00 PM
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p.1 #11 · blind: PDV E-Session


ISO1600 on a 10D.... FTL

Too grainy, and avoidable. All of your shutter speeds look to be in handheld territory. A tripod would've bought you 800 or 400 for the same shots. For the color shots, you can often wind up getting hinky WB settings at night. A CAREFUL use of custom WB is almost mandatory.

I like night shooting, but I agree with Red that this warrants a do-over.




Apr 14, 2009 at 02:03 PM
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p.1 #12 · blind: PDV E-Session


wonder if that dude will get married in that T shirt


Apr 14, 2009 at 02:06 PM
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p.1 #13 · blind: PDV E-Session


Evan Baines wrote:
ISO1600 on a 10D.... FTL


That made me laugh...



Apr 14, 2009 at 02:11 PM
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p.1 #14 · blind: PDV E-Session


Some of the compositions are nice, some are... ok.

The technical flaws kill the set, though.

- Jeff



Apr 14, 2009 at 02:26 PM
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p.1 #15 · blind: PDV E-Session


I shot these.

First the story behind it: Ignacio and Lili have been together for more than 12 years, I know them since 1998. We always wanted to this kind of engagement session but since she work shifts at a hospital (nurse) it was difficult. I was not paid for these. They were 2 hours late.

I knew these are far from perfect, but I wanted to post them to get advice and blunt critic. I´ve posted some work here before, but non of the photographers that I admire here stopped by to say anything, even to say that they suck, so for me this was a good learning experience. I read Melanie´s thread about how she feels about the Doubleblind post but I think for me it has been a good idea and I will do it again.


Talofa: sorry about the size of the first files, newby mistake, wont happend again.

bwcat: they do look a bit green on my screen, I tryed to do my best to adjust the wb correctly. Thank you for taking the time.

mineymole: same as above. Thank you for taking the time to post.

RedWhiteandRed: They were 2 hours late, I wanted this to be a nice sunset session, I wasnt specting to have to shoot at night. They will get a do over in a year when I´m back to my country. Thank you for taking the time to post.

jeremy_clay: I wanted to do a fake TS for a while, these were my first. I agree with the one on nº7 not being good, but do you think the one on nº10 is any better? or is it equally bad? Thank you for taking time to post.

Evan Baines: I know, I took my chances on the 10D at ISO 1600, again, I wasnt specting to have to shot at night. It was a borrowed camera/lenses and I didnt even had a flash. I also didnt feel comfortable shooting on a slower shutter speed due to what happend on nº2 (moving hand). When you say "CAREFUL use of custom WB is almost mandatory" do you mean while shoting or later on processing? Thank you for taking time to post.

brucemuir: knowing him as I do... probably

Tony Hoffer: I dont know what FTL means, maybe I would laugh too

Jeff: thank you very much. You are the only one that could see past the technical flaws and talk a bit a bout composition. Could you tell me which ones are "nice" and how could I improve the "ok" ones?

Again, thank you all

Pato.



Apr 15, 2009 at 06:43 AM
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p.1 #16 · blind: PDV E-Session


Baduck, good on ye for taking the crit like a man.

Cheers
BK



Apr 15, 2009 at 07:54 AM
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p.1 #17 · blind: PDV E-Session


BKphotography wrote:
Baduck, good on ye for taking the crit like a man.

Cheers
BK


+1

RE custom WB: Outdoor lighting at night is often a crazy mix of different light temperatures: incandescent, florescent, moonlight, colored neon, etc.... and it can be brutal getting decent looking skin tones. Custom WB uses a white object as a reference point to set proper color... or uses something like an expodisc for the same purpose. MUCH easier than trying to find a proper white balance with the RAW after the fact.



Apr 15, 2009 at 08:22 AM
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p.1 #18 · blind: PDV E-Session


Baduck: I would say #10 is better then #7, for sure. I think I'm just not a fan of the TS thing these days, so I'm a lil jaded.


Apr 15, 2009 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #19 · blind: PDV E-Session


Thanks BK, I got what I asked for

Great advice Evan, I´ll try that next time.

I like the TS thing, I´ll try to improve the execusion, even if you dont like it Jeremy.



Pato.



Apr 15, 2009 at 05:27 PM
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p.1 #20 · blind: PDV E-Session


Baduck: 3,7,10,11 are compositional interesting and are common among many here as "go to" shots for an e-sesh. Technically as folks have said are a little off, the ISO grain is an issue as stated, and the colors seem a bit off. I understand the difficulties at shooting during the dark, but if any lesson comes from this for future shoots....Always plan for the unexpected. Keep the flashes/strobes in the car just in case folks are late, or you are having so much fun that you want to continue shooting.


Apr 15, 2009 at 05:39 PM
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