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p.4 #1 · Leica R for Canon telephoto alternatives


telyt wrote:
Lightroom cleans up the moire? Kewl, tell more.


Not the bird feather or tweed suit kind, but the moire you see on fine/sharp edges.

Capture One V 4.5 or later works on the bird feather type, with a loss of sharpness in the area it applies it to.

I have noticed that the all the RAW processors have gotten better with moire as they introduce new versions.

Robert



Edited on Apr 07, 2009 at 07:34 AM · View previous versions



Apr 07, 2009 at 07:28 AM
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p.4 #2 · Leica R for Canon telephoto alternatives


Wayne:

Looks like the 2x is working well. It may get a bit sharper at a higher shutter speed. don't be afraid to shoot the 180mm near wide open. According to Erwin Puts, the 180mm performance gets worse when stopped down past middle apertures.

Robert



Apr 07, 2009 at 07:31 AM
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p.4 #3 · Leica R for Canon telephoto alternatives


I've just started using the Leica 2x APO extender and so far I'm quite impressed. I typically test equipment in real-world conditions, which is how I'm likely to use the stuff. Here's a Marsh Wren photographed with the R8 and DMR, 280mm f/4 APO and the 2x APO extender. The camera was "supported" with my usual shoulder stock and monopod on unstable ground with an active subject. This is how I often find myself working so it's more a test of how the equipment works for me rather than a test of image quality under ideal conditions.

the full picture:
http://www.wildlightphoto.com/mawr01full.jpg

100% crop:
http://www.wildlightphoto.com/mawr01crop.jpg

Note the motion blur in the bird's lower mandible.

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Apr 07, 2009 at 07:43 AM
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p.4 #4 · Leica R for Canon telephoto alternatives


Doug:

I went back to an old file from the original DMR bible thread and reprocessed it in Lightroom to show how it deals with moire better.

Here is the full picture, just processed through lightroom. The maroon player also had lots or moire in his belt, which lightroom removed, but I don't have a crop of that from the older processing of the file.

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/2/2/l1020671_614579.jpg



The old moire crop from a few years ago, looks like it may have been a Flexcolor conversion.

http://robsteve.com/DMR/L-1020671CRP.jpg


A crop of about the same area, processed through Lightroom.



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/2/2/l1020671-2.jpg



Apr 07, 2009 at 08:05 AM
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p.4 #5 · Leica R for Canon telephoto alternatives


robsteve wrote:
Wayne:

Looks like the 2x is working well. It may get a bit sharper at a higher shutter speed. don't be afraid to shoot the 180mm near wide open. According to Erwin Puts, the 180mm performance gets worse when stopped down past middle apertures.

Robert


These last shots were mostly at f5.6 which is the fastest I can do with the 2x on the 180 APO 2.8 because I lose two stops, right?

Yes without the extender, the f2.8 performance is just incredible.



Apr 07, 2009 at 08:47 AM
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wayne seltzer wrote:
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These last shots were mostly at f5.6 which is the fastest I can do with the 2x on the 180 APO 2.8 because I lose two stops, right?

Yes without the extender, the f2.8 performance is just incredible.


If you mean the lens was at f2.8 (wide open) with and effective f5.6 speed with the extender, that would have been the fastest you could shoot. With the converter, try stopping down half a stop or more, may with the lens set to anywhere from f3.5 to f5.6.

Robert



Apr 07, 2009 at 05:03 PM
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p.4 #7 · Leica R for Canon telephoto alternatives


Robert,

Ok, my confusion. I had the lens set at f5.6 with the extender connected so that means that the effective f-stop was really f5.6 + 2 stops = f11, right? I should have put the lens at f3.5 or f4.
I am coming from using the Canon extender on my Canon teles where the effective f-stop is what you tell the camera and the camera automatically does the rest and also prohibits your from setting the f-stop to below the len's fastest f-stop + 2 f-stops.

BTW, nice manual focusing work on the football shots! Super sharp.



Apr 07, 2009 at 07:24 PM
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p.4 #8 · Leica R for Canon telephoto alternatives


Wayne:

Here are a few more football images with the 400mm f2.8. Takes a little eye hand coordination, but with the contrast of the Leica lens it is pretty obvious when it is in focus.

This is the QB getting sacked. In one of these sack photos he injured a knee. They won this game and went on to the national championships, but the QB did not recover from his injuries in time to play. They lost the national championships.

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/2/2/L1020059.jpg


The link below will bring up a gallery wit a few more images from the same game.





Apr 08, 2009 at 06:42 PM
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