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Archive 2009 · First try with white seamless

  
 
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p.1 #1 · First try with white seamless


Decided to give white seamless a try. Please forgive the models
If anyone can give advice, criticism or any suggestions, it would be appreciated. Lighting setup was with 2 sb-600 flashes on either side of background and one sb-800 in umbrella above camera (all controlled with D80 in commander mode). I know the lighting is flat and needs some work.

Main concern is the background and amount of spill coming forward. I did not use any flags to block the background lights and realize that is pretty much needed.

Thanks

http://www.sbpatterson.com/Dino1.jpg

http://www.sbpatterson.com/Dino2.jpg

http://www.sbpatterson.com/Thomas1.jpg

http://www.sbpatterson.com/Brennan1.jpg

http://www.sbpatterson.com/Brennan2.jpg

Edited on Mar 18, 2009 at 06:12 AM · View previous versions



Mar 17, 2009 at 08:53 PM
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p.1 #2 · First try with white seamless


Petty good overall. The exposures aren't consistent shot to shot. Some the background is just under clipping which is ideal, in others its blown out which really isn't necessary perceptually and just exacerbates the flare problem.

The toy shots look OK but its difficult to have any frame of reference for "normal" The kids look underexposed. Here's one I looked at in PS and corrected with screen (to lighten) and soft light (to add contrast) adjustment layers.

http://super.nova.org/EDITS/WhiteBG.jpg

There is very nice natural modeling on the boy's face with highlights and shadow in the natural places - highlights on raised surfaces / shadows on lower ones but it looks flatter in the shots of the with girl. He was looking up into the light more than, she was.

A meter is great for setting ratios and exposures set, but best tool I've found for tweeking exposure, especially on white backgrounds, is the clipping warning in the camera playback. I set my foreground lights first with the background off putting a stand with a target containing a white towel to judge the point of clipping in the camera playback. I raise exposure to the point the towel, placed where the face will be, begins to clip.

http://super.nova.org/TP/WhiteBGTowelCard1.jpg

Then I bring up the background lights. For that session I was using a hair light on the right, which was set 1/3 stop below clipping on the towel, then everything else was keyed visually to it so there would be separation between the rim light and the white background. The background actually needs to be quite a bit darker than 255 to pull that white-on-white of perceptually but the brain tunes on the background keys off the brighter tone in the foreground. If the background is 255 it makes any whites in the foreground duller by comparison.

http://super.nova.org/TP/WhiteBGTowelCard2.jpg

Setting foreground then bringing up the background also makes is much easier to spot the effects of flare by comparison of the before and after test images. The eye becomes a poor judge of exposure and contrast when exposed to bright light, but the over exposure warning will objectively reveal when and exactly where clipping is occurring and whether the light on the background is even. Using the target keeps the subject from getting impatient. While the photographer is futzing with lights and lens they can be relaxing or doing final touch-ups. Remove target, insert face, start capturing perfectly exposed shots

Chuck



Mar 17, 2009 at 09:45 PM
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p.1 #3 · First try with white seamless


Grafx,
Here is a link to one of the better tutorials I have seen on white seamless "http://www.zarias.com/?cat=13", scroll down the bottom for the first lesson. My setup is as follows I am shooting 4x6 main @ f8, fill @ 5.6 and background at f11. I then meter the back of subject to confirm that they are at f8 or less, if they are not I will pull them a little further away from background until I achieve the f8 or less.
Good Luck,
Greg



Mar 18, 2009 at 01:19 PM
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p.1 #4 · First try with white seamless


Aiming your lights is very important with seamless. If you're not careful you'll bounce the light back to the camera and cause flare.


Mar 18, 2009 at 03:58 PM
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p.1 #5 · First try with white seamless


Greg,

Thanks for the link to Zack Arias tutorial...I found it very informative.

Paul S



Mar 18, 2009 at 08:08 PM





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