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p.1 #1 · Studio, lighting & shot suggestions


Hey guys,
wondering if someone may have some suggestions as to how I can best replicate a shot in terms of studio lighting setup & camera settings. I'm basically trying to replicate the same shot as seen in the link below. The pictures are taken from a website where you can change the colour of the tshirt online. With that said, I'm unsure what colour they originally shot - white? black? a colour? Is there anything we can say about the shots which may indicate the original colour of the tshirt that they shot to achieve the desired level of fabric detail?

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As you may see, the light source is quite harsh which shows great detail of the fabric texture - this I guess was the main goal of their setup and is what I'm also trying to achieve. Would anyone have any experience of shooting something like this or have any general advice how this detail is best achieved?
Any thoughts welcomed!
Thank you,
Marvin.

Mar 16, 2009 at 05:36 PM
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p.1 #2 · Studio, lighting & shot suggestions


It looks like a normal shot which has been manipulated in Photoshop with a combination of masking, Levels and Hue Saturation or Channel Mixer adjustments...

If the shirt is light you first make it darker with Levels. Then by mucking about with the Channel Mixer you can change it from neutral to whatever color you want.. I did something similar with this shot to illustrate how clothing and background affect perception of lighting on a face:

As taken:


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As manipulated to make clothing and background brown:


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Mar 16, 2009 at 07:24 PM
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Hey Chuck, I'm aware of what they did with it. Just interested in how they actually took the original shot. Also, what colour do you think they actually shot with and why?
Take a look at this further example of all the colours.

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Is there any way to tell which is the original? Thanks,
marv.

Mar 16, 2009 at 07:42 PM
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I'd guess the original was a white shirt, shot a combination of cross light (more dominant on the left than right side) + frontal fill.

Cross light to reveal texture, flat light it to hide it. Control how hard or soft the lighting / object looks perceptual with the fill: the lighter shadows, the rounder / softer things appear to bit. But you're probably aware of that too

Chuck

Mar 16, 2009 at 07:58 PM
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Nope I haven't a clue about photography!
Thanks a lot man. What do you think about the argument that a darker shirt was used in the original shot as this would absorb more light and therefore give more of a texturised look? Would the pure white reflect too much?

Also, what kinds of lights do you think I would need to light that shirt? I only have normal 100w desk lamps at home. Would 2 halogens do the job? Also, do I need some kind of umbrella or something also?

Mar 16, 2009 at 09:36 PM
 



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The best way to learn is to experiment. Stuff a t-shirt with a pillow and move the light around until you get the look you like.

The illusion of 3D shape is create in the brain by the 2D contrast patterns the shadows create. The more the brighter "key" light is to the the side the longer the shadows are and more it will reveal the shape. Start with one light over the camera - flat light - as a baseline then move it around in an arc to one side and observe how it models the shape. When you get the modeling you like place a second light back over the camera and dim it or move it to change its intensity. You'll see how the fill affects the darkness of the shadows and how that affects the perception of shape. To get the look in the linked photos you'll need a third light on the opposite side from the first on, further away or dimmed so its not quite as bright.

Not a shirt, but the same general lighting strategy: a light on each side from a bit behind the object (note the direction of the shadows in front) with a third light over the camera to reveal the detail in the shadows facing the camera:



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The same general idea using backlight from the window and a refector:


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The illusion of 3D shape is created by lighting from slightly behind then shooting into the shadows. The fill controls how dark the shadows look.

If you have north facing a bay window in your house you can get the same cross-light + fill effect by putting the shirt in the middle, covering the window behind the shirt with translucent cloth, then letting the stronger light from the side windows hit the sides. Then use foam core reflectors in front to bounce fill onto the front of the shirt with the camera between them.

Chuck

Mar 16, 2009 at 11:25 PM
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marvin wrote:...What do you think about the argument that a darker shirt was used in the original shot as this would absorb more light and therefore give more of a texturised look? Would the pure white reflect too much?

I'm not Chuck, but if I may join the conversation...

Photography is "writing with light" -- so learning to control light is fundamental.

A black shirt and a white shirt can be made to both look gray by controling the amount of light that reflects off the shirt and enters the camera.

A white shirt would be better for showing texture -- as long as it's not over-lit -- because a dark shirt would tend to absorb light to the point of blocking up unless you have a lot of light; your 100 watt incandescents probably wouldn't be much good.

Also, if you lit the black shirt enough to make it look light enough to layer color over, the mannequin on which it was mounted would look blown out unless it, too, was vary dark.

So I think they used a white shirt.

Chuck has a very good tutorial on his Web site where he shows how to set exposure by using a white towel as a test target; and that white towel shows plenty of texture because the various light sources hit the fibers at different angles, creating peaks and valleys of highlight and shadow.

If you go to the Web sites of good wedding photographers, you'll see lots of examples of lighting whites for texture, because most brides (in the western world, anyway) wear white wedding dresses, and they won't pay for photos that make them look like they're wearing glowing sheets of textureless light.

Yours is really a good question, and as you can see it opens all kinds of doors for further inquiry into how photographic lighting works.


Mar 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM
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Very good. Makes a lot of sense Brian - thanks for the advice. I will take a look at Chuck's site. I was planning to shoot a light grey or blue (desaturated) shirt but after what you just said I should test more and see what works best.
Since my last post I have made one big softbox which uses 5 25w CFLs. I took a few quick test shots using a reflector positioned opposite the softbox to fill in the darker shadows cast. I need an athletic mannequin now and we should be good to go!

Mar 23, 2009 at 04:35 PM
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Been reading Chucks tutorials. I must say its just the kinds of articles that help me I get a basic understanding of controlling the shot. Bookmarked! I will try some examples and post back my results.

Mar 23, 2009 at 10:12 PM




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