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p.3 #1 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

I agree, as a 1Ds2 owner if I didn't need a full-frame body with Liveview for alternate lens use I wouldn't even consider it. Someone I know has gone through two 5D2 bodies and he called them "garbage", but said the body might still be ideal for my particular need.

Mar 16, 2009 at 11:10 PM

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p.3 #2 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

Aravind, are you insinuating that Canon is creating an artificial short supply

? Just kidding.... It seems the big stores didn't get enough supplies while tons of smaller stores get them more. Most peopole tend to go with the big stores first, such as B&H, Adorama, Amazaon, etc.

Mar 16, 2009 at 11:13 PM

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Drew_Persson wrote:
I'm surprised nobody commented on the $2,300 price. Not that I have any affiliation with that fleabay seller or Live Cashback, but I'm tempted to give it a shot.

I was just hoping somebody else already had, and was going to post "it worked out fine for me", lol.

$2300 for brand new 5D2?? Just don't be surprise if you receive a piece of brick or rock in the shipping box instead, and good luck trying to dispute any transaction with those vampire from paypal.

Mar 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM

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p.3 #4 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

The 9% cashback is for real; whether you trust the seller or not, it will be entirely up to you, of course.

Mar 16, 2009 at 11:30 PM

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p.3 #5 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

Yep, I received almost $1,000 total from five Cashback rebates so far. There's a $200 rebate limit per fleabay transaction, so the current 9% is more than enough for a 5D2 body. (Several of my cashback rebates last fall were 30%, which was awesome for $700-ish items.) Just comes down to finding a legit fleabay seller offering "buy it now".

Mar 16, 2009 at 11:42 PM

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p.3 #6 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

I would try Allens camera,has great feedback on the forum and is a good dealer 215 547 2841

Mar 16, 2009 at 11:52 PM

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p.3 #7 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/583953-REG/Canon_2764B003_EOS_5D_Mark_II.html

I notice that 5d2 is in stock at B&H right now. 3/16 5pm PST

Mar 17, 2009 at 12:09 AM

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p.3 #8 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

This "someone that you know" obviously has a very low opinion of the 5D2 .... but still think this "garbage" might be good enough for you

I hope he's not a friend of yours!

Drew_Persson wrote:
I agree, as a 1Ds2 owner if I didn't need a full-frame body with Liveview for alternate lens use I wouldn't even consider it. Someone I know has gone through two 5D2 bodies and he called them "garbage", but said the body might still be ideal for my particular need.

Mar 17, 2009 at 01:33 AM

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bobbytan wrote:
My thoughts exactly. There are all kinds of issues with the white dots, squeaky door, it's water-damage prone, and the camera cannot focus reliably enough to save its own life - and yet it seems that demand is far outstripping supply .... 4 months after it was first released .... and when the economy is at an all time low and most people think more than 12 megapixels is complete overkill. What's happening here?

What is happening here is forum spin.

There is no "white dot" problem. There was a very rare though confirmed "black dot" problem that has been resolved by the firmware update on currently shipping cameras.

The "prone to water damage" story goes back to one incident on an Antarctic expedition on which there were a number of failures of some of the very first 5D II cameras. It never did quite become clear what happened, and many report that their 5D Mark II bodies seem to work about the same as their 5D bodies in wet conditions. (I used mine to shoot three rainy days of a professional bicycle race without any hint of a problem.)

I have no idea where you come up with the "cannot focus reliably" business. Most 5D II users that I've heard from report pretty much the opposite - this camera is capable of producing some very excellent resolution.

For my part, I did not intend to upgrade to a 5D II - my plan was to continue using my fine 5D for another year or so. Circumstances intervened and it turned out that I ended up with a 5D II. I am typically pretty skeptical of the claims of "astonishing improvements" when a new camera is introduced. It is my experience that improvements are more often incremental and in many cases are not all that significant. So I was quite pleasantly surprised to find that I can see clear improvements in the quality of my prints at 12 x 18 size.

Finally, keep in mind a few typical forum "sports" that skew reports on equipment:

People are far more likely to post about a perceived problem than they are to post that "everything works just like I thought it would." This leads to a misleading imbalance of negative reports.
Quite a few of the negative reports are based on improper technique or (to be direct) ignorance. One of my favorite examples is the folks who post that "my 5D produces sharper 100% crops than my 5D II!" Well, duh. You are looking "more closely" at a smaller section of the image on the 21MP 100% crop.
The world is full of skeptics. Heck, I introduce my own fair share of skepticism into the world every day! Some get some joy out of looking for conspiracy or incompetence "under every rock," and seem to turn every negative report and observation into a scandal.

I've used mine to shoot a variety of subjects: the above-mentioned sports, landscape and nature, people and events, night photography. The camera has performed as I expected it would and better.

Dan

Mar 17, 2009 at 02:45 AM

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bobbytan wrote:
This "someone that you know" obviously has a very low opinion of the 5D2 .... but still think this "garbage" might be good enough for you

I hope he's not a friend of yours!

All I need is a full-frame sensor with Liveview and a Canon mount, for any other use I have the 1Ds2. Don't need high ISO, don't need AF, etc. As long as the body doesn't exhibit the mysterious 5D2 Liveview vignetting issue, it should fit the bill. So my needs are few.

Mar 17, 2009 at 02:57 AM

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Dan,
I believe Bobby's point is more like "despite all the reported negative issues why is the demand on this camera is still outstripping the supply, even after 4 months". He and I had a discussion on this particular issue. FYI, Bobby has a 5D MarkII and he has been very happy with it.

Mar 17, 2009 at 03:00 AM

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Demand is clearly outstripping supply - the problem is that we have no accurate sense of the volume being supplied (or sales numbers) so all this is just more speculation.

Mar 17, 2009 at 03:08 AM

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p.3 #13 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

B&H at 4 AM 3-17-09

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/583953-REG/Canon_2764B003_EOS_5D_Mark_II.html

Mar 17, 2009 at 08:00 AM

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p.3 #14 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

Demand is clearly outstripping supply - the problem is that we have no accurate sense of the volume being supplied (or sales numbers) so all this is just more speculation.

According to FM members outside the U.S., the 5DII is readily available everywhere EXCEPT the U.S. It is only in the U.S. where demand is clearly outstripping supply.

A month ago, after watching this site:

http://www.nowinstock.net/digitalcameras/canon5dmarkii/

I was convinced that U.S. demand was low, but U.S. supply was virtually zero, since a month ago, NO major retailer ever showed supply, even for a few hours.

However, someone reported on DPreview about a week ago, that B&H received 100 bodies or kits one day, and every one was sold within two hours. That is over $270,000, more than 1/4 MILLION $ of 5DII sold, in the middle of the Great Depression II!

The demand for this camera in the U.S., 4 months after introduction, is simply beyond belief!

Mar 17, 2009 at 05:40 PM

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p.3 #15 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

Its gone again at B&H. I think it may be better to just call B&H and see if they take your credit card info, and maybe charge, then when it comes in, ship it out to you.

Several times I've had a Nikon D700 + 14-24 & 24-70 in my cart at Amazon or B&H.
At the end of the day, the 1D series or any of the FX bodies from Nikon are solid in your hands and the AF works better, but when looking at the files from the 5DMkII they are absolutely wonderful and you fall for the IQ like a weak kneed school girl falling for a pop star. I start loving the images from my 5DMkII again and can't push checkout on my cart.

Mar 17, 2009 at 06:16 PM

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p.3 #16 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

Thanks Joshua - yes, that's what I meant to say.

The 5D II is far from being the perfect DSLR but it is terrific value at $2,700 as you are getting one heck of a body .... more than you will get from a D700 or A900 IMO - and that's why its doing so well in spite of the appalling economic situation. Of course everyone's needs are different and the D700 is also selling well - perhaps 2nd only to the 5D II in terms of total units sold within the first 4 months of its release. These are without a doubt the 2 hottest FF bodies on the market right now.

AGeoJO wrote:
Dan,
I believe Bobby's point is more like "despite all the reported negative issues why is the demand on this camera is still outstripping the supply, even after 4 months". He and I had a discussion on this particular issue. FYI, Bobby has a 5D MarkII and he has been very happy with it.

Mar 17, 2009 at 06:58 PM

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Don Clary wrote:
Demand is clearly outstripping supply - the problem is that we have no accurate sense of the volume being supplied (or sales numbers) so all this is just more speculation.

According to FM members outside the U.S., the 5DII is readily available everywhere EXCEPT the U.S. It is only in the U.S. where demand is clearly outstripping supply.
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However, someone reported on DPreview about a week ago, that B&H received 100 bodies or kits one day, and every one was sold within two hours. That is over $270,000, more than 1/4 MILLION $ of 5DII sold, in the middle of the Great Depression II!

The demand for this camera in the U.S., 4 months after introduction, is simply beyond belief!

Actually, I was responding to posts that were explicitly referring to US retailers so I completely agree with your qualification - in the US demand exceeds supply (I'm not sure if it's readily available *everywhere* else in the world or not). But, assuming the DPreview post is accurate, it's not at all beyond belief to think that one of the largest camera retailers in the US, in the nation's largest retail market, responding to pent up demand, would sell 100 units in a few hours. In fact, given the posts we've been reading here, it's quite understandable ...

Mar 17, 2009 at 07:12 PM

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AGeoJO wrote:
Dan,
I believe Bobby's point is more like "despite all the reported negative issues why is the demand on this camera is still outstripping the supply, even after 4 months". He and I had a discussion on this particular issue. FYI, Bobby has a 5D MarkII and he has been very happy with it.

Hey, thanks for giving me the context on that one. I've seen so many "new product X sucks" posts on these and other forums that I guess I start to see other posts as more of that.

(Just saw another post in this forum describing a rather more positive experience with Canon bodies in challenging conditions.)

Take care,

Dan

Mar 17, 2009 at 07:21 PM

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p.3 #19 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

Guess I'm not living in "everywhere". I know of a couple of local stores in Switzerland that get one or two now and again and those are gone within seconds, but none of the places I usually buy have any, have large back orders and don't expect any for up to two months. If the warranty on bodies wasn't regional, I'd try to find "everywhere" and buy one on the spot.

Mar 17, 2009 at 09:25 PM

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p.3 #20 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

+1 Same in France. When a store has a few in stock, they are gone in a matter of hours.

Mar 17, 2009 at 09:34 PM

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p.3 #21 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

I got mine in Dec from www.pictureline.com
I was very pleased with their service!

Mar 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM

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p.3 #22 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

This is where I got mine. Norman Camera is a good store, but for me it is local. Their web site is claiming they have both the kit and the body in stock.

http://www.normancamera.com/product-exec/product_id/18721/nm/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II_with_EF_24_105mm_IS_Kit

http://www.normancamera.com/product-exec/product_id/18667/nm/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II_Camera_Body

Mar 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM

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p.3 #23 · 5D Mark II in stock anywhere?

I got two from Best Buy's website this past thursday.

Mar 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM

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Got mine in from Norman on Monday, ordered it Friday afternoon and had it overnighted (I thought FedEx delivered overnights on Sat.). Easy as pie, seems everything is fine. I bought the kit, and that is the most money I've spent online from someone I don't know much about. The only thing negative I found on them was that they weren't as nice over the phone as they used to be. I don't know, I never had to call them.

Got the grip coming in from BH tomorrow. Have one on my 20D and I forget how much that helps in holding the camera and for portrait oriented shots. That ISO performance is amazing! The shutter sounds like a like a piece of peanut covered bread hitting the floor compared to the mechanical machinations of my 20D.

I definately feel more lost in it compared to my 20D. Before that I had a 630 and before that a F1N and those were easy conversions, there is more meat here. Seems there are a lot more interelated functions and settings.

Just one thing, when I open a RAW in DPP and zoom to 100%, after a maybe 10-15 seconds the image changes from a noisy, sharp image to a soft, less noisy image. I don't think I've changed any basic camera or DPP settings. What is happening there?

Mar 18, 2009 at 06:20 AM

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Drew_Persson wrote:
Yep, I received almost $1,000 total from five Cashback rebates so far. There's a $200 rebate limit per fleabay transaction, so the current 9% is more than enough for a 5D2 body. (Several of my cashback rebates last fall were 30%, which was awesome for $700-ish items.) Just comes down to finding a legit fleabay seller offering "buy it now".

I'd love to know how one determines if an Ebay seller is legit. Just because they claim to be an authorized dealer doesn't mean they are. Just because they have 100% positive feedback doesn't mean they won't screw you. (happens all the time)

Mar 21, 2009 at 06:39 PM


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