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p.1 #1 · Sharing pictures with friends????


I take a lot of pictures at parties and get-togethers with friends and love to share my pics with everyone. When you take 300 pics at a party in Lrg JPEG emailing them is way out of the question. So I tried SnapFish, but the quality is complete crap! So I've been searching the forums to see what everyone uses but I was still a little unclear on how it works.

Are there sites that I can pay for that let me keep all my pics at full resolution and gives access to my friends to download the full hi-res versions for free (free for them) Is that what SmugMug and others do?? Even Photo Bucket shrinks the pics down and looses photo quality.


Thanks very much!



Jan 20, 2009 at 03:19 PM
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SmugMug is a great site, and I've been using it for ~4 years. Very customizable, if you need such a thing, and their customer service is top-notch. You can choose what the max resolution to your viewers is, including "original", and you can make prints available for order as well. There is even a full-screen slide show mode. Overall, the best I've seen.

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Jan 20, 2009 at 04:35 PM
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p.1 #3 · Sharing pictures with friends????


Thanks, soo.... SmugMug will do what I was asking??



Jan 20, 2009 at 04:43 PM
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Just edited my post. Look up one post for details.


Jan 20, 2009 at 04:45 PM
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Here's a sample gallery:

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/gallery/3718986_G4nL2#213326023_odw6o

Try the slideshow button in the top right corner.



Jan 20, 2009 at 04:46 PM
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p.1 #6 · Sharing pictures with friends????


Thanks for the help!!!!


Jan 20, 2009 at 05:02 PM
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I think you can use Flickr and Webshots although those might have limits as to how much you can upload. I just use Facebook of course and if anyone needs a fullsize version of my photo they are welcome to ask.


Jan 21, 2009 at 06:10 PM
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I do the same sort of thing on Pbase. However, I don't upload full res images. Haven't tried but would expect a reasonable 4x6 could be made from the files. If they want a full res for a print, they can contact me. I'd suggest trimming the numbers as well, unless really in business and selling, 300 full res/full quality files will take up a lot of space (it's not free) and I'd expect a pretty substantial amount of time to upload and to view. On Pbase, they'd display full res if you set to "original" but that's going to just give slowloading and a partially visible image, so most would look at smaller sizes anyways.


Jan 22, 2009 at 08:11 PM
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if you are willing to pay around 5 dollars a month, you can have your own server man. $15/year for your own domain name, and then you can upload whatever the heck you want, as large of a file as you want.
There are also applications or web page makers that you can make your own photo album, and you could have a thumbnail based database of your photos, uncensored, and uncompressed!



Jan 22, 2009 at 08:44 PM
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Craig Gillette wrote:
I do the same sort of thing on Pbase. However, I don't upload full res images. Haven't tried but would expect a reasonable 4x6 could be made from the files. If they want a full res for a print, they can contact me. I'd suggest trimming the numbers as well, unless really in business and selling, 300 full res/full quality files will take up a lot of space (it's not free) and I'd expect a pretty substantial amount of time to upload and to view. On Pbase, they'd display full res if you set to "original" but that's going
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The only real reasons to allow "original" sized images on SmugMug or PBase, etc., would be to allow downloading/printing, or selling prints online. Either way, the uploads take the same amount of time, although viewing online is quicker for smaller images, as mentioned above. You can set viewing preferences/privileges for each gallery individually. I've ordered prints from SmugMug for my own use, and I'm very pleased with the quality, and they compare favorably with the other labs I've used. SmugMug (not sure about Pbase, or others) allows unlimited space for a fixed price, and I'd highly recommend using one of the third-party upload programs they have available. The one they offer for the Mac is really slick, and I'm guessing the Windows version is similar.



Jan 23, 2009 at 02:18 AM
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p.1 #11 · Sharing pictures with friends????


+1 for Smugmug
+1 for Flickr

Both are great. Both offer unlimited storage space, so you can upload whatever you want.
Smugmug costs money while Flickr has a FREE account (with some "photostream" and monthly upload restrictions).

However, if you wish to keep photos private, using Flickr would require everyone to have a Yahoo! Flickr account. On Smugmug, you can use "private" galleries and just e-mail them a special link with or without a password. I have used both. Recently I've been using Smugmug more for the "private" nature of sharing family photos.


Google Picassa ... is good, but the limited storage (unless you pay for more space) is a major drawback.

pBase ... my friend uses it and he likes it. It is fee based.

Facebook has a photo sharing option ... 2 drawbacks (or features) ... every image is resized to ~600 pixels on the long edge (which means if someone was to copy the image, it wouldn't produce a high quality print) and you are limited to 60 photos per album (guess that can help prevent sharing all the "bad" photos).


In the end, I am using Smugmug and continue to do so because it allows for private galleries and allows my family to download the large sized originals. Yes, it costs money, but having the unlimited online storage for all my photos (read: "as a THIRD backup copy") is great.



Edited by Fred Miranda on Jan 23, 2009 at 10:58 AM



Jan 23, 2009 at 04:19 AM
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+1 for SmugMug. Tried most of the others and am now moving over my Pro Photobucket account, slick site!


Jan 24, 2009 at 08:44 AM
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Also check out Zenfolio, similar to smugmug and it also allow fullsize (original) download.


Jan 28, 2009 at 06:04 PM
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+1 for smugmug. I just opened a pro account in December, and it's really great. I already have things customized, priced, and looking pretty slick. Their support is incredible, even at the basic level which is something like $29 per year. Check me on that though.

Here's my site if you want to look around. Bear in mind I know little about designing websites. It really says something about smugmug support.

Dan Olmstead
compass-photo.com



Jan 28, 2009 at 06:20 PM
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I've been with pbase for years now, but their fees are way higher than their storage space allowance and speed of late. They remain good, but I'm moving on. Tried zenfolio, and liked it, but very little customization options, IMHO. So, I tried SmugMug and liked it, so I opened an account there today - a Power account so I can get rid of the Smugmug header. Wish I could take off the footer as well .. but that's only for Pro accounts, apparently.

Been playing with the CSS and it's going reasonably smoothly. The IE Dev Tools help a lot. I got a 50% off new memberships coupon by googling for "smugmug coupons". Hope Smugmug serves me well as I slowly move into actual photography, beyond a hobby.



Nov 06, 2009 at 02:42 PM
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Pbase is great, the best quality image display. Right here at FM too but there may be storage limits...but the image display is excellent...one of my main criteria. If you image looks poor, what good is displaying it!!!

I use Exposure Manager. Excellent display and template based like off of those in this thread. And you simply turn off thier logo so you don't have thier adverstisment on your site. 24 hr customer service, etc. That is standard for this little cottage industry...they all do great customer service.

I had a lot of problems with SmugMug Pro for over a year and stopped using them a few years ago. It was always down right after a game or theatre event and I was losing sales--totally unacceptable. Tons of excuses and I kept with them for a full year of that, but in the end, unacceptable. But sounds like that is not an issue for you. Also having "Smugmug" on my site is a real turnoff. Getting thier ad off your site is possible but not at all easy.

Also Zenfolio is good, great reviews and professional look. You can also remove thier brand.

If you are handy, I'd do one yourself if you do not need the commerical sales engine. Since I sell photographs and digitial files, etc., the Exposure Manager setup is handy and very flexible with more pricing and download options than any of the others.

I upload and allow people to download full sized images from my password protected "Friends and Family" gallery only. Otherwise on thumbnail jpegs go on the website. You can disable right click but people can still copy, but might as well make them work a little for it. Again, these sound like non-issues for your stated purpose.

Good luck and do your own homework on this. I have to say it was 100% the right thing to do moving from SM Pro to Exposure Manager in my particular case and based on my useage...but it was a lot of work if you want to move your old images too and have a lot of them (I did). I do not want to go through that again. So I would highly recommend going to the sites you want to consider, make a checklist of what is important to you...price included, and make your best pick. Then experiment for a while. It is great to get feedback here on FM and other photography boards too. If the company has a trial period, take advantage of that...again, you don't want to switch unless it is really needed.



Nov 06, 2009 at 05:19 PM
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I played with the CSS a bit on smugmug and got rid of most of the branding .. I'm still working on the site, uploading photos and such. So far, it's good. PBase was ok for me, at least till now. But, $24/yr for 500MB or $60/yr for a measly 1.5 GB and so on .. hardly cuts it anymore, not with the giant files being generated with 15 and 18 Megapixel cameras. Mine's still a 8-MP camera, but I'll soon be upgrading when Canon gets their cameras all fixed and de-bugged.

I got the smugmug account for 50% off, so $30/yr for the Power level membership will give me time to evaluate it as I start shooting more and more portrait sessions.

Here's my gallery .. after a few hours of learning smugmug from scratch, uploading many photos, deleting, uploading again, organizing, tweaking the CSS .. I plan to work more on it this weekend. This is just after day 1. I was never able to get anywhere close to this level of customization with pbase ... and they have only very few stylesheets for public use.

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Nov 06, 2009 at 08:33 PM
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Yeah, the branding thing is a personal preference. For me, I don't want my web hosting company branding my website with their name. IMHO, it is my site, not mine and theirs together--just mine. Obviously they do it for free advertising. And it does not seem to bother those that use that service.

And a little off topic, but "SmugMug"...what were they thinking with that name...do you want a "Smug-Mug?" I dunno, but what conjures in my mind when I hear that phrase is not pleasant and moderately obnoxious, I think 'smirk' when I hear that. Does anyone want to hang with someone sporting a "Smug Mug?" I def don't want that image to be any clients impression or thought that they may have when they are buying from me. Stupid on my part maybe, but impressions do count. YMMV

That however was not why I switched as stated before. But clearly SM has a following that is large. My guess is that they have a lot more clients than any other commercially oriented template-based hosting services. While PBase is great in quality, they have not really changed since the early days and never went very commercial, they were happy with talented photographers that knew about their service and wanted more or less an online portfolio and high end viewing service...they were not geared toward the great masses of amateurs that entered into the world of digital photography. SM was initially geared toward amateurs sharing--a huge growing segment of consumers taking advantage of new, realtively inexpensive digital photography. Since then, they added features like the Pro line to try and capture people like me for example, part-time professional photographers. People that sell but not full time, and those of us that don't want to fuss with, or cannot afford, doing commercial sales as a sole endeavor. I just want a place to easily get photos up so my clients can look and buy, easy, templates and way to take credit cards and have someone else print them. I'm willing to pay for that service and do.

SM knows how to market and they have a brand that many feel strongly about. Reminds me a little of Apple and how strongly Apple people feel about their machines. They feel far stronger about the product than is justified by the machine itself when looking at it objectively. In SM's case, it is more than a web hosting company, it is a brand loyalty thing. If I was doing my MBA again, a great marketing case study would be to pick their brain for how they built that loyalty...companies live for loyalty. Coke, Apple, Nike, they have followings that go well beyond product, it gets personal and emotional. Just go the DGrin forums and look at the people cheering and profusely thanking the owners when they introduce a new feature, the praise for the owners is quite something to see...and it turns normal people into evangelicals for their product, they are inspired to get converts--almost religious. Reminds me of Sam Walton in the old days, or Steve Jobs at the Apple annual meetings. That whole thing makes me a little wiggy, it gives me the creeps. But who knows, I don't go to professional soccer games any more because all that high emotion makes me uncomfortable.

I would say that Exposure Manager and Zenfolio for example, have tried very hard to emulate this, with limited success. They have the product, in some ways a better product IMHO, but not by much. In the old days, to win a championship boxing match, you really had the pummel the champion, anything like a tie was not enough. The others have not delivered a knock-out blow and frankly, I don't think they will. SM, for the foreseeable future, is the winner. It reminds one of the Hertz and Avis wars on a small scale. Avis was number two and "we try harder." It was not a compelling enough slogan. It was (and maybe still is) Hertz with the lion's share. They were first, they got the market, and they got the loyal following. Once on top, momentum and attention to details (which SM does do as a company) keeps them there. Coke and Pepsi, same thing, brand wars. Coke was first and had smart brand marketing. Does it really matter if Coke or Pepsi tastes better? My taste buds like RC the best, but what comes to mind when I want a "cola"...a Coke of course. There is some of this with Canon/Nikon but less intense than say Apple/PC. Some accessory companies have this. RRS has evangelists, so does Think Tank. They tend not to be ballheads or camera bags, but have moved into personal statements and create emotions that go beyond product.

I think SM really did the whole template based thing first, it caught on and people liked it, they were the first to do the 24 customer service thing (they all do this now), and the guy who gets a new product or service out there first, and keeps at it hard, usually wins. SM seems to fit this story.

Oh well, long post, just some musings.

Good luck with it!



Nov 07, 2009 at 01:17 AM
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Made more progress customizing the site. Once you get the hang of it, it is easy to customize .. and the unlimited files option is the best. I might keep my pbase account active as well .. because pbase gives more exposure, fortunately or unfortunately. And it is only $2 per month, so I'll leave it alone for a while. I like Smugmug quite a bit now ... have to try their print services though.

I really wish they will add the following soon
- Virtual Galleries (kinda like smart albums based on keywords)
- Unlimited levels of nesting of galleries (gallery inside gallery inside gallery AND Virtual Galleries Inside Galleries)

http://www.bestindigital.com



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