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Alex Nail
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UPDATE: Gosh I'm sorry I obviously havent been in here enough, for those of you that are interested I have now created a simplifed action which should also allow you to add your own a little easier. I also took onboard suggestions to 'fade' the sharpening to luminosity mode and the sharpened layers (there are now 2 on top of an unsharpened layer) are in luminosity mode, with layer masks. The sharpest layer has a mask which is 50% grey which I beleive gives the best result as an average technique. You can paint white on it to get sharper still. If this still isnt enough, use a smart sharpen at 0.2 px and 100%. The latest version should also work on non-english versions of photoshop, which the last action did not. Older versions of photoshop do not have the 'fade' command so you should simply delete this part from the action (it should be redundant anyway since the layers are set to luminosity)

The latest version can be found here: Web Resize

I hear that people using Mac's may not be able to download it. If that is the case drop me a line at [email protected] and I will gladly send it to you.







I wrote a tutorial for this sharpening method a while ago but until now I have neglected to actually post it.

I wish I could remember where I read it on the net but subsequent google searches havent shown up anything. Marc Adamus uses a variant of this method which is actually what lead me to search for a better method because I noticed a certain clarity in the sharpness his images which were not present in mine. I have tried Marc's method but I dont get the same consistency in results as much seems to depend on the ratio between image sizes.

Who should read this
This is really aimed at people who want to show their work at the highest quality on the web. You can get really very close using Unsharp mask settings of 0.3px and 100-200%

An example
So first off here is a comparison of the two methods:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/alexnail/sharpening.jpg

The difference appears quite small but the advanced method is still clearly superior. It picks out the finer details much much better. Look at the grass on the left image, it looks blurry and crunchy in comparison to the pin sharp grass on the right.

How the method works
This method exploits the way Photoshop's Bicubic resize algorythm works to retain finer details. That's all you need to know! (and that is all I know!)

Step by step

1: Flatten the image

2: Resize image to 1.666 times the final size you want. If your final output size is 600px then you should resize at this point to 1000px

3: Apply the Sharpen filter (not Unsharp Mask)

4: Duplicate the layer

5: Apply Sharpen filter to the top layer (it will look waaaay oversharpened)

5: Resize to final output size. (So if you have just resized your image to 1000px resize it to 600px now.)

6: Apply smart sharpen (set to gaussian blur, 0.2px, 80%). This just brings out a little more crispness!

7: Use a layer mask on the top (sharpest) layer to adjust opacity and mask areas which look oversharpened. (this is nearly always necessary but you may want to use full sharpening on certain areas of the image.)

8: You may wish to slightly correct the saturation and brightness which will have changed fractionally during the process using curves or hue/sat adjustment layers.

Download the actions
If you don't want to do it all yourself then I would suggest downloading the action I have created which gives sizes between just 100px and 1024px (all the sizes I have used since starting using this method). If you have CS3 and you arent familiar with actions, read the help! They really are very handy for repetitive tasks.

Download the action

To load the action in Photoshop CS3 open the actions pallete click on the little button with a triangle on it and select "Load Action", its that simple. (It's the same in CS4 which I have just upgraded to)

I hope this helps someone!

Alex

Edited on Aug 07, 2009 at 12:14 PM · View previous versions



Jan 10, 2009 at 05:22 AM
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p.1 #2 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks Alex! I'm going to give this a try.

Barry



Jan 10, 2009 at 05:59 AM
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That looks really nice! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have CS3 so I will download your action! Thanks!!!


Jan 10, 2009 at 08:59 AM
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Does the action work on CS2?


Jan 10, 2009 at 09:51 AM
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p.1 #5 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


That looks really nice! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!




Jan 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM
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p.1 #6 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


pauelv wrote:
Does the action work on CS2?


I havent tried, the action was created in CS3 and works in CS4 also.

Alex



Jan 10, 2009 at 10:20 AM
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p.1 #7 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks! I'm currently doing something similiar, but will definitely give this variant a shot.


Jan 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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Very cool Alex. Thanks a lot.


Jan 10, 2009 at 01:36 PM
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Excellent. Thanks very much for this!


Jan 10, 2009 at 01:45 PM
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Thank you, Alex!


Jan 10, 2009 at 04:07 PM
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Alex,

Thank you.



Jan 10, 2009 at 04:22 PM
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Thanks for the actions, very nice. One thing you could add, if you're getting odd changes in color, is after each sharpen command go to edit->fade sharpen->set to luminosity (opacity 100%).


Jan 10, 2009 at 04:35 PM
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Alex,

Thanks for so generously sharing this action with the rest of us. I appreciate it and I am sure there are many others on this forum who do too.

Great stuff from you, man.

Sean



Jan 10, 2009 at 07:12 PM
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Good stuff, will have to try it!


Jan 11, 2009 at 12:55 AM
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Thanx Alex. Much appreciated. Will give it a shot.

Ian




Jan 11, 2009 at 01:26 AM
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Thanks Alex for posting this for the benefit of the group. I think this is a decent way to custom sharpen especially if you are used to just slapping some PS Unsharp Mask on your image. Kudos to Marc Adamus for letting the cat out of the bag in recent times about some of the techniques he has used and innovated for quite a while, to have an edge over the competition in the sharpening for web arena. Now some of those techniques seem to be getting more common.

I will say there is quite a bit here left to be improved though. For the sake of those trying to improve or maximize their sharpening skills, here are a few things I'd like to throw into the mix:


1. I would not use Smart Sharpen but would use PS USM. Among other things Smart Sharpen tries to do, is to protect the image from receiving to much sharpening intensity in areas that don't really need it, or downright should not receive it, specifically the shadow and highlight areas (who wants to turn pixels to pure 255 white? or who wants to exaggerate chrominance noise in the darkest areas of an image?). It simply does not offer the degree of control I, and some others may need. I find sharpening constrained to very specific tonal ranges (levels) using the Layer Style Blending Options "Blend If" sliders a much more precise tool to accomplish this. Images can always use progressively more sharpening in the mid tones than the highlights or shadow areas and this is one way to accomplish it powerfully.

2. At the intermediate stage (sized down to say 1000-1300 or so pix) the key is that we are really trying to introduce an ultra fine sharpening effect. I'd go to 0.2 radius and much more "amount" with USM depending on the image and the lens used. Some times multiple swipes of USM this way works. Each image is completely different. If you want a more generic action then I might try 500 Amount at 0.2 Radius, maybe twice (do testing to see the difference and find the right amount). Keep "threshold" to 0.

BTW... PS "Sharpen" (Located on the Filter>Sharpen sub-menu) is, for all intense purposes, identical to USM at 130 amount, Radius 0.4, and threshold 0. So even sharpening at 0.3 radius would increase the "fine-ness" of the intermediate effect over a simple swipe of the "Sharpen" filter.


3. Sharpen on a layer in RGB Luminosity Mode (or even better the L Channel in LAB color space) so as to not effect color saturation or create those unwanted hue shifts. Luminosity mode does this very well but Sharpening the L Channel in LAB mode does it best.

4.Using an "Edge Mask" to a varied opacity can allow one to protect non edge areas from Sharpening very little, to a lot, depending on preference. This can be added into the sharpening arsanal at either the intermediate stage (the 1000-13000 px) or at an enlargement stage when making enlargements (which is a different issue). Bruce Fraser's "Real World Image Sharpening" book is a must for those serious enough to get into sharpening masks. Sometimes it is nice just to have a sharpening mask, to see if it brings any benefit to the image. Sometimes it wont, but other times, at some opacity, it does. One can do the intermediate sharpening both with, and without a mask and then process them both the same way to completion at the desired finished size. Once this is accomplished, then slap the one on top of the other and see the differences the mask made using varied % of opacity.

5. A touch of very careful and controlled, minimal Capture Sharpening (in ACR) at the Raw stage has now been proven to give one a touch more detail quality than not doing it (especially those engrossed in maximizing their fine art print quality). Because of time restraints I can't go into how this should be done for beginners, but for the more advanced folks all that is needed is (in Adobe Camera Raw - newer versions) to view the image at 100% and using the four sliders just undo a little of the unnatural softening that always occurs when a steady stream of photons gets converted into little squares we call pixels. The trick to this is to be careful not to do any pixel damage to the image. Under-do rather than over-do! Tip: at 100% hold down the Alt (PC) button when sliding each individual slider, to see a preview of what is going on and what is going to get sharpened or protected.

General settings for most landscape images might fall in this area: Amount: 20-35 depending if it was shot with a cheap or top end lens (cheap lens more around 30-35, and a top end lens with mirror lock up maybe around 20-25) Radius: 0.5-0.8 depending on the size of the details in the image, Detail: 100-80 again depending on the detail, Masking: 8-20 depending on the areas you want to protect. If it is a sky, then you can mask out the whole thing with no sharpening applied to it at this stage. I mask this non sharpened sky into my sharpened land in PS.

Lastly, I will agree with Alex here and other folks that PS Bicubic is probably the preferred way to down size. PS Bicubic Sharper adds to much unregulated/haphazard and non ideal sharpening to the images, and I find the Bicubic Smoother algorithm makes images to soft for downsizing. Save that one for up rezzing where it can not be beat!

Hope it helps.



Jan 11, 2009 at 01:30 AM
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p.1 #17 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Mark, any way you can write an action that will handle the PS work with breaks that allow the user to tweak the settings on each image and a preset in lightroom that will do the ACR stuff? I would really appreciate it.


Jan 11, 2009 at 03:36 AM
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floris wrote:
Thanks for the actions, very nice. One thing you could add, if you're getting odd changes in color, is after each sharpen command go to edit->fade sharpen->set to luminosity (opacity 100%).


Thanks floris. A few people have pointed this out to me since. I did actualy do a comparison before rewriting all the actions and in all honesty I thouhgt the difference was negligeable however, were I to do it again I would have made that change, for thoroughness if nothing else.



Jan 11, 2009 at 04:04 AM
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mark70x70 wrote:
1. I would not use Smart Sharpen but would use PS USM. Among other things Smart Sharpen tries to do, is to protect the image from receiving to much sharpening intensity in areas that don't really need it, or downright should not receive it, specifically the shadow and highlight areas (who wants to turn pixels to pure 255 white? or who wants to exaggerate chrominance noise in the darkest areas of an image?). It simply does not offer the degree of control I, and some others may need. I find sharpening constrained to very specific tonal ranges (levels) using the
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Thnks Mark, that was an interesting read and I think, when I rewrite the actions I may well employ some of your suggestions. However, I think many of your suggestions are unnecessarily complex. You say that the point of the intermediate stage is to apply fine sharpening. Have you actually tried different sharpening settings or are you talking theoretically? I have tried different sharpening, but the oversharpened intermediate stage is crucial to the sharpness of the final size. I was unable to find a noticeably better technique. As far as editing the process for each image goes...The bottom layer has fairly minimal sharpening, the top layer has lots, masking can be used to control that very well. I have yet to come across an image where this method does not give me EXACTLY what I want. The one caveat is that there are very slight tonal and colour shifts which it seems can be corrected (or mitigated) using your previous suggestions.

Thanks for taking the time.

Alex



Jan 11, 2009 at 04:17 AM
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Michael White wrote:
Mark, any way you can write an action that will handle the PS work with breaks that allow the user to tweak the settings on each image and a preset in lightroom that will do the ACR stuff? I would really appreciate it.


Micheal, it would be very easy for you to create such an action yourself. I dont know if you are familiar with actions but essentially all you do is create a new action and start recording. This will record the action and settings for a specific image, if you wish to make any particular stage editable then you can click the box next to that stage.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/alexnail/actionspanel.jpg



Jan 11, 2009 at 04:22 AM
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