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p.1 #1 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Made my first trip to Troy high school Saturday night for a JV-Varsity boys double header. Funny how every time I bounce it's like the first time. The ceiling there has large solid supports that hang down 10 feet every 30 feet or so and make the light inconsistent. The glass cam is a MKII with sigma fish, tripped with a PW Plus II. My gobo was to small thus the reflection on the outer ends of the shots.

Set the WB to 5600K and it looks slightly warm on the non glass shots.

C&C welcomed.

# 1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/028z_eldoradocopy.jpg

# 2

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/039z_eldoradocopy.jpg

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# 4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/107_eldoradocopy.jpg

# 5

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/112_eldoradocopy.jpg

# 6

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/041z_eldoradocopy.jpg

# 7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/300_eldoradocopy.jpg

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# 10

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/342_eldoradocopy.jpg

# 11

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/TryHoops09/Eldorado/462_eldorado-2copy.jpg




Jan 04, 2009 at 03:42 PM
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p.1 #2 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Great set Bryan. Love the glass cam. The only ones that look a little warm are 5 and 7. Maybe 9 too, but I think it's because it's a little underexposed. Great use of cams and lighting. Nice job.


Jan 04, 2009 at 04:29 PM
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p.1 #3 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Thanks Paul,
I am considering doing some "leave it mounted" direct lighting for the season. Not sure about the effect on coaches.... we've had some photogs get shut down here do to complaints about the lights... though not from players.



Jan 04, 2009 at 04:48 PM
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p.1 #4 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


I love the glass cam! It gives such a unique perspective!

I also like the photo of the feet.



Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29 PM
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p.1 #5 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


I like them, especially the glass cam. Light seems pretty even. On #11, do you shoot when the players on the F-T line? Which light are you using? ISO400 at f/5.0 with just one light?

bb



Jan 04, 2009 at 05:55 PM
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p.1 #6 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Two Whitelightning UZ1600s. Not sure what happened on that one. I have never had a player complain about strobes just coaches. When the strobe itself is not in the line of sight it does not seem to bother players.


Jan 04, 2009 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #7 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


I have never had a coach complain, just principles who never even talk to the coach, they just make the decision (of course they have every right, it's when they say that they talked to the coach and lie to me).


Jan 04, 2009 at 06:47 PM
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p.1 #8 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


pictures of set up?

i love the remote work - that is my next venture



Jan 04, 2009 at 09:22 PM
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p.1 #9 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


DannWunderlich wrote:
pictures of set up?

i love the remote work - that is my next venture



Doh ! I always pop a couple of the setup but spaced yesterday.

Here is one from a CSF game last year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/Titan%20Hoops%2007-08/Portland%20State/063_PortStcopy.jpg



Jan 04, 2009 at 09:30 PM
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p.1 #10 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Neat stuff. The remote camera shots look more cold to me than any of the hand-held shots look warm, but that might be because I'm a Nikon guy and you're a Canon guy. It seems like all my Canon friends like their shots on the cool side. I've never thought, for some reason, to do remotes for a high school game, I guess it should be pretty obvious decision because there's fewer people in charge to deal with (i.e. at Rutgers I have to work within Rutgers', the Big East and the NCAA's rules).

Either way, I really like them a lot. Were the WBs on the two cameras set the same?

-Will



Jan 04, 2009 at 09:56 PM
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p.1 #11 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


yeah I too think the remote shots look too cool not too warm.

Your gobo looks plenty big too. odd that there's those reflections ... what did you make the gobo out of?




Jan 04, 2009 at 10:22 PM
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p.1 #12 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Will,
Thanks for the feedback. WB was 5400 K on each... 2 MKIIs and a MKI. Problem is I adjust to touch and I suck at color. Really need to work on a better work flow for WB and color. At this school baseline space is minimal so the remote is premium.



Jan 04, 2009 at 10:24 PM
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p.1 #13 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Looks great Brian...the bounce is working very well as evidence by #7 where you have three faces all looking in different directions, as well as both uniforms exposed perfectly.

The remote adds such a neat dimension to a shot with number 2 being my favorite.

As for the shoe shot, I would not be surprised to see Nike come knockin on your door for that one; or more likely just steal the idea. And even if they don't steal the idea I'm sure there are about 100 or so highschool shooters here that will.

Ron



Jan 04, 2009 at 10:25 PM
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p.1 #14 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


cm0rris0n wrote:
yeah I too think the remote shots look too cool not too warm.

Your gobo looks plenty big too. odd that there's those reflections ... what did you make the gobo out of?




The picture is from a previous game.... that gobo is black visquine.. The gobo I use now is black photo aluminum foil held on with 1.5" electric tape. Your tape needs to be black on the bottom. Gaffers is kinda gray.

Edited on Jan 05, 2009 at 11:01 AM · View previous versions



Jan 04, 2009 at 10:32 PM
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Ron Hole wrote:
Looks great Brian...the bounce is working very well as evidence by #7 where you have three faces all looking in different directions, as well as both uniforms exposed perfectly.

The remote adds such a neat dimension to a shot with number 2 being my favorite.

As for the shoe shot, I would not be surprised to see Nike come knockin on your door for that one; or more likely just steal the idea. And even if they don't steal the idea I'm sure there are about 100 or so high school shooters here that will.

Ron



Thanks for the feedback Ron,
Funny about the shoe thing...... I started shooting feet in the boxing ring which made me aware of the importance of footwork in all sports.I also find it interesting that Nike can supply shoes to a HS athlete but I can't give an NCAA player a 4x6 print.........



Jan 05, 2009 at 10:59 AM
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p.1 #16 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Bryan,

way to go the extra mile with the glass cam for high school. Although most HS players don't get to the rim much, you got some cool stuff.

Maybe I'll have the patience to do it again this year. What I found the toughest of all with the glass cam is that after the game, I have to fight with the janitors who want to close the gym and go home ASAP. I need to break down the glass cam before they retract the backboards and get to the top of the collapsable bleachers to collect my lights before they get closed up. I really needed an assistant or a shooting partner to help me next time.



Jan 05, 2009 at 12:13 PM
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Patrick Lanius wrote:
Bryan,

way to go the extra mile with the glass cam for high school. Although most HS players don't get to the rim much, you got some cool stuff.

Maybe I'll have the patience to do it again this year. What I found the toughest of all with the glass cam is that after the game, I have to fight with the janitors who want to close the gym and go home ASAP. I need to break down the glass cam before they retract the backboards and get to the top of the collapsable bleachers to collect my lights before they
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I feel your pain. At this school the kids and parents linger quite a while so I have about 20-30 minutes to tare down. I bring my own ladder and pull the remote down first.If I get proof of insurance this week I may be hanging some direct light there soon.



Jan 05, 2009 at 09:49 PM
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p.1 #18 · HS Bounce and Glass Cam


Bryan,

I really like it when I see photographers take their bag of tricks to the high schools! The glass cam shot are awsome!

cb



Jan 07, 2009 at 05:57 PM





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