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Archive 2009 · Viability of Fast Zooms

  
 
Max10
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p.1 #1 · Viability of Fast Zooms


Slower zooms (f/4, f/5.6---) are reasonably sharp wide open. However, this is generally not true in case of fast (f/2.8) zooms.

Aperture setting depends on many variables (indoor/ outdoor, portrait/ landscape, sports/ still-life, etc). This question is related to ABILITY of the fast zooms at maximum aperture.

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience.

Max


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Jan 04, 2009 at 02:26 AM
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p.1 #2 · Viability of Fast Zooms


properly used, no problem...


Jan 04, 2009 at 02:42 AM
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p.1 #3 · Viability of Fast Zooms


I don't really get your alternatives in voting.

All the three last choices seem to mean the same (never shoot wide open).

I have two f2.8 zooms, 17-55f2.8 IS and 70-200f2.8L IS and don't hesitate to use them wide open when the need arises. However, if I have just a bit more light, I stop them to f3.2 to f4 to get a bit sharper results. Also, quite as often I stop them to get some more depth of field. So, which alternative should I vote?

Like f4 zooms, also f2.8 zooms improve in sharpness when stopping down. But they do it one stop earlier. In fact, my 17-55f2.8 is mostly shaper than my 24-104f4L IS, both lenses wide open. With some focal lengths the corners might be sharper with the 24-105 at f4 than with the 17-55 at f2.8.

I don't have the 70-200f4L IS so I cannot compare my 70-200f2.8L IS with it. But what I've seen reviews and samples, the f4L IS is very sharp, so the situation there might be a bit different, especially at 200mm which is the weak point of the f2.8L IS.

Finally, don't generalize like "f2.8 zooms" because they are all different. And it also depends on what you compare them with. Basically f2.8 zooms can do all that f4 zooms can - but they can also shoot at f2.8 to f3.5, and sharper at f4.


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Jan 04, 2009 at 02:43 AM
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p.1 #4 · Viability of Fast Zooms


Dear All,

The question is not appearing completely in the title block.

The question is: “How often do you shoot wide open with fast (f/2.8) zooms?”

Max



Jan 04, 2009 at 02:47 AM
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p.1 #5 · Viability of Fast Zooms


Max10 wrote:
Slower zooms (f/4, f/5.6---) are reasonably sharp wide open.


Depends on your notion of 'reasonably', and also which zooms you are meaning - there are some duffers out there.



Jan 04, 2009 at 06:10 AM
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p.1 #6 · Viability of Fast Zooms


Max10 wrote:
Dear All,

The question is not appearing completely in the title block.

The question is: “How often do you shoot wide open with fast (f/2.8) zooms?”

Max


Understood the question but the still don't get the answers. How's "stopped down by one stop or two" an answer to "how often do you shoot wide open"?



Jan 04, 2009 at 06:17 AM
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p.1 #7 · Viability of Fast Zooms


I shoot my fast zooms wide-open over half of the time.


Jan 04, 2009 at 07:01 AM
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p.1 #8 · Viability of Fast Zooms


I think this is another (innocent) way of asking "Should I get the 70-200 2.8 or the 70-200 f/4"... and that's ok! It may be the first of the year.


Jan 04, 2009 at 07:14 AM
Lord Fluff
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p.1 #9 · Viability of Fast Zooms


Max10 wrote:
However, this is generally not true in case of fast (f/2.8) zooms.


....is incorrect, thanks for playing



Jan 04, 2009 at 08:09 AM
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p.1 #10 · Viability of Fast Zooms


Emile Gregoire wrote:
Understood the question but the still don't get the answers. How's "stopped down by one stop or two" an answer to "how often do you shoot wide open"?


+1



Jan 04, 2009 at 08:09 AM
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p.1 #11 · Viability of Fast Zooms


astrolucida wrote:
I don't really get your alternatives in voting.

All the three last choices seem to mean the same (never shoot wide open).

I have two f2.8 zooms, 17-55f2.8 IS and 70-200f2.8L IS and don't hesitate to use them wide open when the need arises. However, if I have just a bit more light, I stop them to f3.2 to f4 to get a bit sharper results. Also, quite as often I stop them to get some more depth of field. So, which alternative should I vote?

Like f4 zooms, also f2.8 zooms improve in sharpness when stopping down. But they do it one
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+1

Agree completely: too much generalization, too few specifics, too few options in the poll.

If you do feel like the OP does, just get a slow zoom and be happy...

Ruy



Jan 04, 2009 at 08:13 AM





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