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dcmiller
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p.2 #1 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


Leica or Sigma


Dec 14, 2008 at 11:12 AM
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p.2 #2 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


I adore the the bokeh from the 50L.
There are lots of nice alt lenses out there that draw bokeh nicely too, but for native EF mount the L is the champ IMO.



Dec 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM
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p.2 #3 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


thanks for your help

I've also considered getting - don't hit me now... - a nikon prime 1.2 ais or 1.4
is it possible to use af lenses via adapters on canon? in MF mode, I mean

I know that MF nikons do work on canon... does the same go for af lenses, as long as you switch to mf?



Dec 14, 2008 at 01:21 PM
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p.2 #4 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


Thanks!

No PP other than simple curve work... it was shot on BW400CN film (in a Rebel G heehee) and even the Walgreens proof print looked good.

PetKal wrote:
That's an exceptionally fine portrait, hopefully exemplifying a notion that good non-commercial photography doesn't hinge on gear prices nor manic postprocessing.




Dec 14, 2008 at 01:30 PM
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p.2 #5 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


>>While the pic is nice, It looks postprocessed to me.

?? What looks postprocessed ??

A straight film scan with a simple curve adjust... are you just not used to seeing film images?



Dec 14, 2008 at 01:32 PM
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p.2 #6 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


I'm thinking both!

dcmiller wrote:
Leica or Sigma




Dec 14, 2008 at 01:33 PM
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p.2 #7 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


on my monitor, mh2000's pic is gorgeous. something in it brought peter pan or maybe wiz of oz to mind, actually. very nice use of dof, but imho a wonderful composition most of all. tom, what are you viewing with?


Dec 14, 2008 at 03:42 PM
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p.2 #8 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


Lance Couture wrote:
Have you shot it wide open with say, trees in the background, Robert?

It actually has pretty nervous bokeh. One reason I ditched it and went with the 1.4 version.

I would go with the Sigma, but with all of the front/back focus horror stories... eh... no thanks.


Yes, i've shot with it wide open, with busy backgrounds. I still like it



Dec 14, 2008 at 05:35 PM
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p.2 #9 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


I have used all the canon 50mm and 50L is way better in my opinion, but you would expect that from such a high price. I haven't use any alternative, but for bokeh, and overall image quality, I will just keep my 50L. Quite happy here.

Sample at f3.2 with 5D: http://www.pbase.com/titik_dua/image/84935633

/ansye



Dec 14, 2008 at 09:20 PM
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p.2 #10 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


Sigma 50mm f/1.4 on 1Ds2, ISO 1000, handheld, 1/13 second at f/2.0.

Yeah the 1Ds2 is noisy above 800, but I like this lens, a lot.

http://www.phototurbo.com/temp/cathead.jpg

100% crop
http://www.phototurbo.com/temp/cateye.jpg





Dec 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
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p.2 #11 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


Rokkor all the way, followed closely by Pentax K 50/1.2 and Zuiko 50/1.4
Didn't like Zuiko 55/1.2, planning to buy Zuiko 50/1.2
You people should go to alt forum discuss this



Dec 15, 2008 at 08:56 AM
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p.2 #12 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


mh2000: Excellent photo! After I saw that, I thought to myself "hmmm, maybe I should let go of my hangups and realize that digital B&W CAN look as good as film B&W"... but then your confirmation it was shot on film set my world right again


Dec 15, 2008 at 03:54 PM
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p.2 #13 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


Here’s one comparison between EF 1.8 and 1.2L. Both shots at f/2.0.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2643304952_b39421f9a1_o.jpg

It’s much dependent on the circumstances of course. The 1.8 can be completely ok sometimes, and at the same time if you push the 1.2L a bit the blur may “split” in a way which looks kind of cheap. See below sample, at f/1.6.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/3110752977_440545c4f5_o.jpg

If you work on it you can even get the blur from a noctilux look busy it seems. Anyway, both the noctilux and the rokkor seem to be a class over the EF 1.2L in terms of technical (but not necessarily esthetical) perfection of the bokeh. That's my impression.



Dec 15, 2008 at 04:05 PM
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p.2 #14 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


Many people say the bokeh is a subjective taste.
The 50mm lens with best bokeh I've seen is not listed in the choices.
It's a Russian lens called Volna-9.

This was the thread that covered the 50mm lens bokeh test.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/665563/0?keyword=volna-9#5939881



Dec 15, 2008 at 04:12 PM
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p.2 #15 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


For exciting, beautiful bokeh - the Minolta Rokkor 58 1.2 converted to EOS. For perfectly smooth bokeh, there is only one 50mm to consider - the Sigma 1.4.


Dec 15, 2008 at 07:49 PM
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p.2 #16 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


jm42 wrote:
Here’s one comparison between EF 1.8 and 1.2L. Both shots at f/2.0.


Forgive my ignorance here but which is which in that pic?



Dec 16, 2008 at 06:55 AM
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p.2 #17 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


jm42 wrote:
Here’s one comparison between EF 1.8 and 1.2L. Both shots at f/2.0.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2643304952_b39421f9a1_o.jpg


The left one has to be the L, right?



Dec 16, 2008 at 07:07 AM
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p.2 #18 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


I thought so, the bokeh looks "softer" somehow (and better IMO). I wouldn't stake my house on it though....


Dec 16, 2008 at 07:30 AM
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p.2 #19 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


besides that rokkor 58 f1.2 ...

definitely the 50L. i rented for a week and like someone mentioned, while not as sharp as the 85L wide open, i do love the bokeh from it. it has a certain look to it, kinda like how the 85L does.



Dec 16, 2008 at 08:40 AM
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p.2 #20 · 50mm - "Bokeh Machine..."


I try to avoid using any 50mm lens. A jump from 35 f1.4L to the 70mm end of the 70-200 f4L IS is all I need.


Dec 16, 2008 at 08:52 AM
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