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p.1 #1 · Brandi 2


A second shot from my series with a local model who's trying to build a book from scratch.

http://fc61.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/332/7/3/739104d3c0135e268e4bfd981bbee4d6.jpg

Model: Brandi Roy
Hair/MUA: Mallory Glenn
Photographer: Brent McCombs
Location: BigSky Studio One, Halifax





Nov 27, 2008 at 11:32 PM
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p.1 #2 · Brandi 2


Hi,

I like this very much. Nice image.

Well done.

Good use of the figure and the black and white theme. Good use of the background design too.

What to fix or notice next time?
Look at her left foot. It is "lost" visually in the black shape. Better to have it remain in the or middle area.

I like the light too.

In fact, I like this image so much "I wish I had made it." (My high compliment to you and your stylist and model).

Of course if I had made it, I would be kicking myself for not noticing that foot!

I hope these comments encourage you.

Now...how will this image be used and for what purpose and who was the buyer or who "paid" for the shoot? (I do not mean for you to release client names, just to state if this was for a magazine assignment or an ad agency or what?)



Nov 27, 2008 at 11:39 PM
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p.1 #3 · Brandi 2


This is an amazing shot. Something i'd expect to see in a high fashion mag. Kudos to you!

On another note...how did you accomplish the multi-toned background?



Nov 28, 2008 at 03:39 AM
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p.1 #4 · Brandi 2


Steady - thanks, as always!

jp - foam core (big 8x4 piece, held in place with a c-stand/extension arm).



Nov 28, 2008 at 08:38 AM
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p.1 #5 · Brandi 2


Really nice. Between the font, the B&W and the architectural background, it has a cool art deco feel to it.

And I actually think the foot works better in the black than if it was in the white. First, it doesn't get lost cuz you still have the bottom of the shoe showing in the floor, the left side if the keg is clearly defined all the way down against the white, and there's still a little separation between the black of the shoe and the background on the right side. And this way you maintain symmetry of all limbs crossing colors. And the connection from body black to background black grounds the picture.



Nov 28, 2008 at 09:28 AM
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p.1 #6 · Brandi 2


Chris Sorensen wrote:
Really nice. Between the font, the B&W and the architectural background, it has a cool art deco feel to it.

And I actually think the foot works better in the black than if it was in the white. First, it doesn't get lost cuz you still have the bottom of the shoe showing in the floor, the left side if the keg is clearly defined all the way down against the white, and there's still a little separation between the black of the shoe and the background on the right side. And this way you maintain symmetry of all
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We see it differently (the "Leg" issue that is).

As "I see it" it is really very "simple."

This entire image is about light and dark "contrast."

Everywhere else in the image the figure is in "contrast" to the background. The "light arm against black background," Black and White, etc.

The foot, on the other hand, does NOT contrast with the black background.

Instead it is the only part of the figure that "blends into" the tones of the background.

So....my preference would be to see the foot "stand out" by contrast like the hand above it does. That requires the foot to be in front of a lighter tone, not the black background.

But...as I always say..."That is how I see it."




Nov 28, 2008 at 09:58 AM
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p.1 #7 · Brandi 2


Hi Brent,

Remember, this image is very nice to see.

It is "admirable." (high compliment from me)

You wrote the image is for a local model who is trying to build a book. That helps to understand the "intent" or use of the image. I always appreciate knowing that "intent" too. So thanks for providing that "answer."

And...she should like this image very much. Not many models have such a well executed image in their book.

This next question is not asked to take anything away from this very nice image.
And it is truly asked in a very friendly and supportive tone of voice.

Recently you posted a photo of a model with a rope and credited the concept to another photographer. That was a good thing to do.
It does not take away from your execution of the shot or good photography.

Because this particular image is styled as it is, it "reminds" me (deep in my brain) of another similar image. In other words it looks "familiar" to my visual memory. I cannot "place" the image, but it has a "familiarity" to it that occurred to me the instant I first saw it. That is not a "bad thing" and may be very "good" to go with your intended use of the image.

It does have a "look" that reminds me of some of the fashion images from the 1960s (in some respects) and from the 1980s in other.

So here is the question:

Was this image composition (style) based on another fashion image?

IF so, you have executed the image here very well. It is admirable.

IF not, you have executed the image very well AND created a very nice composition too.

Keep up the good work!



Nov 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM
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p.1 #8 · Brandi 2


It is about contrast, but if it's all stark contrast, then the image basically becomes a silhouette removed from the background. Having the contrast grow out of the foot grounds the photo and connects the model to the background. I look at this kind of image almost like graphic design where you have one shape grow and flow out of another. As I see it.

And I think the images you're thinking it resembles might be Russian propaganda posters from WWII and the Cold War, which inspired a lot of fashion homages.



Nov 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM
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p.1 #9 · Brandi 2


A couple from a very quick search.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/VAS/0000-7136-4~CCCP-Russian-Propaganda-Posters.jpg

http://www.iisg.nl/exhibitions/affiche/met/m01-133.jpg



Nov 28, 2008 at 10:55 AM
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p.1 #10 · Brandi 2


Hi Chris,

Thanks for posting the posters.

I always enjoy seeing graphics, even Soviet Era art.

Still, I think Numfar should have the word/answer on the original question as to what MAY have influenced his design.

And lest anyone read this wrongly, I am actually having a nice time just looking at the original image and even the posted posters. I like to see good "design."



Nov 28, 2008 at 10:58 AM
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p.1 #11 · Brandi 2


I really enjoy this shot outside of the already mentioned lost foot.


Nov 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM
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p.1 #12 · Brandi 2


Are you from Halifax?


Nov 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM
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p.1 #13 · Brandi 2


I'll toss this out there, regarding the foot: It may not be far enough into the black. Given that the light/medium grey transition crosses the leg (on the left), It could be argued that the black/light grey transition should cross the other foot, bringing the blunted triangle through the body, and creating another triangle in the image.

But, heh - the true answer is that I give my models a fairly free reign in moving, as I prefer to get more natural looks than if I posed them. In fact, I don't really let my models pose - they have to model (ie, move) all the time. The benefit is (hopefully) images where the body looks more natural, but the trade off is lack of micro positioning control. So I block out a position and area, and then give the model permission to work the entire area. So, we get things that are just a smidge off. Here, with a very new model with little experience, I got an almost perfect (imo) light, weightless, ballet-esque arm, with a gorgeous hand, and great expression. That's why I chose this frame from the set. The leg doesn't bother me, and in fact, I kind of like it. But it wasn't directly intentional. There are frames when it's fully in white, and in fact, that's how we started.

What actually bothers me a smidge about this image is the shadow on the back arm (between elbo and shoulder). In a perfect world, I'd have frozen her, and moved that arm forward to catch the main light. But she really didn't do nearly as well with directed movement and positioning as she did with free form modelling, following some basic guidelines (one of which was 'the perfect hand', that I'd shown her earlier in the night and she nailed here).

Anyway, that's how the black foot came about. I worked hard in post to keep the separation enough for print. Hopefully that works.

How'd the image come about? Well, I have black plexiglass which I was going to lay down for the black and white look. That was the plan. But when I pulled the plexi out, it was scuffed, and I didn't bring any windex or other cleaner. So I put it back, thinking my 'black and white' shot wouldn't happen, when I saw the black foamcore my studio partner uses as part of a big softbox that he builds for some of his art stuff. I couldn't put it down, as it isn't reflective, so I thought I'd just stand it proud from the seamless and do a vertical b&w shot, in place of the horizontal one I was originally planning.

As I was lighting it, I realized I could get a shadow effect on the seamless due to the place of the main light and the foam core. This only sort of worked (I had to enhance it in post), but at least that happy accident gave me the idea to do it.

I was going to make this a colour shot (I rarely shoot to black and white with pre-intent), but when the model came out and Mallory had done this hair style, it looked SO wickedly retro, and given the wardrobe (just off-white top and black skirt, I changed gears and decided to take it to black and white. This meant I could harden up the main light - which, given her cheekbones and jaw, ended up working out pleasantly.

So that's the progression of the original shot. That said, when I was processing it, the shot (well, pose and wardrobe, more than anything) reminded me of Avedon's Elephant shot, which I first saw about a month or two ago in a magazine. Was it in my mind when I set this up? Not on the surface, but it certainly could have influenced me. And it certainly did influence my choice of the art-deco style font.

As for the Soviet Propaganda posters which Chris posted - I very much didn't have them in mind - but I have seen a LOT of that style of poster (not these in particular), and in fact, have emulated them in other work (my soviet propaganda poster, for example!). So while also not consciously on my mind, could they have been a subtle influence? Sure!

And yep, from Halifax. =)

Brent




Nov 28, 2008 at 07:05 PM
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p.1 #14 · Brandi 2


Hi Brent,

Thank you for posting the detailed "process" account. Reading it was like listening to a friend tell a good story of how they took a trip, step by step. You revealed the kinds of challenges and thinking (process) and experiments that I think are usually "Missing" in most (almost all) image posts here. That is valuable "content" that could help many visitors better understand how one photographer approached the shoot and created the image.

I know I enjoyed reading it. And because I enjoy seeing the image, the story enhanced my appreciation of the image.

About the foot...there is no "single right" answer, just opinions.

But...don't feel bad about it either. Take a look at Avedon's Elephant image (a classic) and notice that the model only has one leg.

So..."perfection" is in the eye of the beholder.

I hope these comments help and encourage you, and I hope they encourage others to take the time to tell us (all) about the process that went into the image creation (including influences and challenges).




Nov 28, 2008 at 07:15 PM
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p.1 #15 · Brandi 2


Heh my wife just said the image looks like a still from Duran Duran's video 'Is there something I Should Know'... which I don't think I've ever seen - but she was a HUGE Duranite in the 80s, so I'll take her word for it. =)

B



Nov 28, 2008 at 07:20 PM
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p.1 #16 · Brandi 2


It's brilliant. Great MUA, stylist, hair, photographer, model. All of the elements you need to make an image like this work. I see nothing to complain about or improve on.


Nov 28, 2008 at 07:30 PM
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p.1 #17 · Brandi 2


Eric Schwab wrote:
It's brilliant. Great MUA, stylist, hair, photographer, model. All of the elements you need to make an image like this work. I see nothing to complain about or improve on.


+1. Nice work as always Brent.

Cheers,
Rick



Nov 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM





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