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p.1 #1 · 1D high ISO question

What is the highest ISO you would use on a 1D classic? I am having some major motion blur issues when shooting basketball, but I do not want to have the ISO too high and make the pictures look like complete crap.

Nov 26, 2008 at 03:39 PM

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p.1 #2 · 1D high ISO question

How big are you printing?

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:09 PM

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p.1 #3 · 1D high ISO question

As high as I need it........if I can get the exposure right then you don't need to worry about noise. Add a touch of Noise Ninja and you will be good to go.

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:25 PM

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p.1 #4 · 1D high ISO question

If you expose right, ISO1600 is doable IMO. When in doubt overexpose by 1/3 of a stop.

See also this:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~lex1963/1d-high-iso.htm

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:27 PM

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p.1 #5 · 1D high ISO question

I've shot around 1250iso 320-500/2.8 with flash and been ok. Like others have said exposure is the key. If you can use stobes there are some great shots on FM. Redman just posted some (D3 though) in the sports section the other day. With flash/strobes and a noise reduction program like Noiseware Pro or NoiseNinja you may be able to shoot higher.

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:39 PM

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p.1 #6 · 1D high ISO question

I think 1600 is fine for my purposes. I have even had a 3200 shot printed on newsprint that looked decent.
For most of the time, when I have my 1D2 with me, 1600's the limit.

Here are a couple of examples.

2012 © Zander Alberts

Canon EOS-1D 48 mm f/2.8 1/250 sec 1600 ISO 0.0 EV

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Canon EOS-1D 28 mm f/2.8 1/100 sec 1600 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:46 PM

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p.1 #7 · 1D high ISO question

No NR on those shots BTW.

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:46 PM

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p.1 #8 · 1D high ISO question

Hmm. Thanks for the advice.
Do you use in-camera noise reduction? If so, mode 1 or mode 2?

Nov 26, 2008 at 11:07 PM

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p.1 #9 · 1D high ISO question

I used mode 2 on the in-cam NR. I think it helps quite a bit in reducing noise with very little cost to detail.

Nov 26, 2008 at 11:14 PM

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p.1 #10 · 1D high ISO question

I'll crank 'er up to 1600 if I need to... the camera is pretty wicked at 400 or under, but 800 and 1600 are fully usable! you can also shoot in RAW and get more anti-noise latitude with photoshop ACR

Nov 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM

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p.1 #11 · 1D high ISO question

I shoot 1600 iso for indoor volleyball and basketball. I'd rather have a shot that's a bit noisy with no motion blur over a blurry shot with less noise.

Nov 27, 2008 at 12:06 AM

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p.1 #12 · 1D high ISO question

Blimey, there is something really nice about the 1600 on the 1d classic!

I don't like to shoot my 1dmkii at more than 1000 for important photos that often. The 1600 on the mkii has a lot more colour noise and it bothers me more than the grain shown from the mki.

Chris

Nov 27, 2008 at 12:44 AM

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p.1 #13 · 1D high ISO question

Thanks for pointing that out Chris. I was just trying to figure out why I just didn;t really think my 1D2 3200 shots as much as I like the 1D's 1600... it is more color noise. I know that 1600 to 3200 is going to be a jump in noise, but I just like the 1D's noise more.

Nov 27, 2008 at 12:50 AM

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p.1 #14 · 1D high ISO question

Would turning up the sharpness in-camera affect noise more?

Nov 27, 2008 at 01:16 AM

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p.1 #15 · 1D high ISO question

I would guess it would... but I have no experience/testing to confirm this. For all of my shots, including the ones above, I had it set at 2, which is plenty sharp straight out of camera for me.

Nov 27, 2008 at 01:20 AM

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p.1 #16 · 1D high ISO question

Ok thanks. I am shooting a wedding for the first time and want my pictures to turn out the best they can!

Nov 27, 2008 at 01:21 AM

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p.1 #17 · 1D high ISO question

I think even if you go up to 1600, if you expose properly, you will be very happy. The AF and larger viewfinder by themselves are very fun to use.

I still like the 1D more than my 1D2!!

Nov 27, 2008 at 01:23 AM

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p.1 #18 · 1D high ISO question

Parker_Dawson wrote:
Ok thanks. I am shooting a wedding for the first time and want my pictures to turn out the best they can!

Then why aren't you shooting RAW? In-camera settings affect jpegs, not RAW.

Nov 27, 2008 at 03:58 AM

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p.1 #19 · 1D high ISO question

1600 if necessary, but ideally 1250 or even 1000. It's better to overexpose at a higher ISO than to underexpose at a lower ISO.

3200 is for emergencies only.

Nov 27, 2008 at 05:36 AM

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p.1 #20 · 1D high ISO question

1000~1250, just shoot raw! RAWRAWRAWRAW, I mean it!

Nov 27, 2008 at 01:19 PM

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p.1 #21 · 1D high ISO question

Imagemaster wrote:
Parker_Dawson wrote:
Ok thanks. I am shooting a wedding for the first time and want my pictures to turn out the best they can!

Then why aren't you shooting RAW? In-camera settings affect jpegs, not RAW.
Are you serious? Wow, I have been shooting RAW the whole time and have been starting to wonder why the parameters never affect my images!

Thanks for your help again, I will be shooting between 1000-1600 ISO, RAW, and use a 70-200 f/2.8 IS if anyone cares.

Nov 27, 2008 at 03:47 PM

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p.1 #22 · 1D high ISO question

Parker_Dawson wrote:
Hmm. Thanks for the advice.
Do you use in-camera noise reduction? If so, mode 1 or mode 2?

IIRC, mode 1 is for cleaning up hot pixels when you do long exposures. Mode 2 is to supress banding at the costs of a slight loss of sharpness.

Nov 27, 2008 at 04:11 PM

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p.1 #23 · 1D high ISO question

Min 1D classic stays att 1600-3200 ISO and a little overexposure! Lots of basket galleries at:
http://jannisnet.smugmug.com/Sports
I am satisfied with the ISO performance (The 1Dinosaur is old and 160k+ on the shutter) and the best lens to use in is the 135 F/2 for indoor basket games.
All the best!
/Jannis

Nov 27, 2008 at 08:32 PM

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p.1 #24 · 1D high ISO question

jannis wrote:
Min 1D classic stays att 1600-3200 ISO and a little overexposure! Lots of basket galleries at:
http://jannisnet.smugmug.com/Sports
I am satisfied with the ISO performance (The 1Dinosaur is old and 160k+ on the shutter) and the best lens to use in is the 135 F/2 for indoor basket games.
All the best!
/Jannis
Wow those aren't too noisy! My Dinosaur has 288,754 actuations currently

Nov 27, 2008 at 10:09 PM

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p.1 #25 · 1D high ISO question

jannis wrote:
Min 1D classic stays att 1600-3200 ISO and a little overexposure! Lots of basket galleries at:
http://jannisnet.smugmug.com/Sports
I am satisfied with the ISO performance (The 1Dinosaur is old and 160k+ on the shutter) and the best lens to use in is the 135 F/2 for indoor basket games.
All the best!
/Jannis

Were there shot at 3200?? In RAW? Any NR applied? They look very good!!

Nov 27, 2008 at 11:23 PM


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