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Charlie Stinch
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p.1 #1 · American Bison @ Sunrise


This young bison was photographed in the Wichita Mountain Wildlife Refuge near Lawton,OK. It was extremely cold for this southern californian (34 degrees), but the Bison were surprisingly cooperative.
Blue Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 03:56 PM
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p.1 #2 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Why is the whole shot this orange/yellow? For effect

Lil - - going back to my huge cleanup job after the wildfires... So no picks.....



Nov 20, 2008 at 04:59 PM
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Lil Judd wrote:
Why is the whole shot this orange/yellow? For effect

Lil - - going back to my huge cleanup job after the wildfires... So no picks.....





Hi Lil,
Thanks for looking. The orange/yellow is the light from the sunrise at a very low angle. If you look closely the catch light in the eye is from the sun for no flash was used. Also if you check the American Bison gallery on my website you will see several with this light. A few others were photographed about an hour later and show a different light.
Blue Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 05:14 PM
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p.1 #4 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Charlie, something's really wrong with that "yellow" light, sorry.


Nov 20, 2008 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #5 · American Bison @ Sunrise


I like the shot the way it is Charlie it makes it unique.

Garen



Nov 20, 2008 at 06:43 PM
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p.1 #6 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Golden light---golden photograph. I've heard of going for the gold--are you wearing your medal?


Nov 20, 2008 at 06:47 PM
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p.1 #7 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Charlie,

it still looks strange to me - - sorry....

Lil



Nov 20, 2008 at 07:55 PM
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p.1 #8 · American Bison @ Sunrise


I love the golden light Charlie, although rendered a bit strong.

The image is posted in Adobe RGB and that may affect some viewers.
Best in sRGB for web. Here is a quick play with removing most of the glow from
the bison, (by layer mask)but left a bit on the lower flank.....and this is sRGB.

look any better Lil?
http://i38./2q85aw1.jpg



Nov 20, 2008 at 08:34 PM
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Charlie, I do like your second take a lot better and Dave's rendition better still. That said if you second post is what it looked like to you that is what matters for you. Maybe once you calibrate that nice new monitor things will look different. I must say that I like your response to others critiquing, you hit the nail on the head.

You do get high marks for not calling this a buffalo!

Tim



Nov 20, 2008 at 09:04 PM
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p.1 #10 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Dave In La wrote:
look any better Lil?
http://i38./2q85aw1.jpg


A lot better on my calibrated monitor.

Well done Dave

Lil



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:09 PM
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The lighting is very perplexing here. This is one of those shots where I don't see how fill flash was not used. EVen right at sunrise, the amount of light striking the under belly of the bison just looks like you used heavy fill flash. It doesn't seem to have the nature of sunlight.


Nov 20, 2008 at 10:13 PM
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Ben Horne wrote:
The lighting is very perplexing here. This is one of those shots where I don't see how fill flash was not used. EVen right at sunrise, the amount of light striking the under belly of the bison just looks like you used heavy fill flash. It doesn't seem to have the nature of sunlight.


it really is the true effect of some golden light at 6:42 in the morning.
I just think Charlie's saturation is a bit strong....when he gets his new
monitor set his shots should be stunning.

It's a light many of us never see



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:18 PM
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Hi Charlie, I saw this image at work today on a not too good monitor to make a call. Well I hoped to that you might get a visit from Dave to set things straight. So, I certainly see improvement and a wonderful result, the image looked interesting just had to 'see' you way through it

Result, nice image, and another good lesson from the FM team players. Good for you Charlie

Karl



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:19 PM
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GAREN wrote:
I like the shot the way it is Charlie it makes it unique.

Garen


Thanks Garen,
After reviewing my original post on my wife's monitor it is a bit oversaturated however the light at this time of day is amazing. I will keep the original post since some seem to like it and it isn't too far from reality.
Blue Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:23 PM
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Classicam wrote:
Golden light---golden photograph. I've heard of going for the gold--are you wearing your medal?




Thanks for your golden comments!
Golden Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:24 PM
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p.1 #16 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Dave In La wrote:
I love the golden light Charlie, although rendered a bit strong.

The image is posted in Adobe RGB and that may affect some viewers.
Best in sRGB for web. Here is a quick play with removing most of the glow from
the bison, (by layer mask)but left a bit on the lower flank.....and this is sRGB.

look any better Lil?
http://i38./2q85aw1.jpg



Thanks a ton Dave for taking the time out to do this. I checked this out on a different monitor and it kicks ass. I will use sRGB in the future and calibrate my monitor before any future image processing. Your the man!
Blue Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM
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p.1 #17 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Ben Horne wrote:
The lighting is very perplexing here. This is one of those shots where I don't see how fill flash was not used. EVen right at sunrise, the amount of light striking the under belly of the bison just looks like you used heavy fill flash. It doesn't seem to have the nature of sunlight.



Yeah Ben,
Strange but true. My only thought is the reflection from the very light grasses could have added some light. I cross my heart..... no fill flash was used.
Blue Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:35 PM
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p.1 #18 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Tim Kuhn wrote:
Charlie, I do like your second take a lot better and Dave's rendition better still. That said if you second post is what it looked like to you that is what matters for you. Maybe once you calibrate that nice new monitor things will look different. I must say that I like your response to others critiquing, you hit the nail on the head.

You do get high marks for not calling this a buffalo!

Tim



Thanks Tim,
I usually learn a lot more from the negative critiques than the positive ones, but the positive ones are confirmation I have actually learned from my mistakes.
Blue Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:38 PM
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p.1 #19 · American Bison @ Sunrise


Karl Witt wrote:
Hi Charlie, I saw this image at work today on a not too good monitor to make a call. Well I hoped to that you might get a visit from Dave to set things straight. So, I certainly see improvement and a wonderful result, the image looked interesting just had to 'see' you way through it

Result, nice image, and another good lesson from the FM team players. Good for you Charlie

Karl


Thanks for the comments Karl,
Dave really puts forth the extra effort and it is greatly appreciated. Thank you for hanging in there to see a better result. Time to break out the Spyder.
Blue Skies,
Charlie



Nov 20, 2008 at 10:41 PM
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p.1 #20 · American Bison @ Sunrise


I do like your second version the best of the two while Dave's version has what would be considered a perfectly white balanced photo. I can tolerate a little artistic licence on the side of the photographer and will stick with the 2nd one as my pick

Ken



Nov 21, 2008 at 12:24 AM
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