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Ted ellis
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you don't succeed, try, try again. I would apologize for my kaka of yesterday but I won't. I am trying new things. Here is another series of birds. All were taken yesterday except the very last.
















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Nov 16, 2008 at 06:50 PM
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4-6
















Nov 16, 2008 at 06:51 PM
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7-9 Nutz
















Nov 16, 2008 at 06:52 PM
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10-11.

I appreciate all comments. Thank you, thank you very much.

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Nov 16, 2008 at 06:54 PM
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Gotta love your spirit Ted!!

I do like these a lot better, a bit more conventional

3 is a stand out, interesting shot, like the dark bg and the bird in the spotlight. Chickadee number 2 is my fave of them and the titmouse is another that is very well done. Nice series.

Tim

Nov 16, 2008 at 07:00 PM
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Thanks Tim. I appreciate your comments. I have been experimenting with a flash. I was blinded by the light. My second series is a little better.

Ted

Tim Kuhn wrote:
Gotta love your spirit Ted!!

I do like these a lot better, a bit more conventional

3 is a stand out, interesting shot, like the dark bg and the bird in the spotlight. Chickadee number 2 is my fave of them and the titmouse is another that is very well done. Nice series.

Tim



Nov 16, 2008 at 07:50 PM
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Looks like you are making gooood progress. Keep them a coming.



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Nov 16, 2008 at 07:55 PM
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Ted, whatever you're doing it works.
Socrate

Nov 16, 2008 at 08:31 PM
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These are sweet Ted great use of fill flash! not too much,not too little
Hey I recognize that black wire

Nov 16, 2008 at 08:35 PM
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I like these too Ted. Flash is difficult to get just right. You did well here.

Nov 16, 2008 at 08:38 PM
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Ted, these are pretty shots!!! I like the nut thatch the most here! I almost got one to today but a few branches were in my line of sight

Nov 16, 2008 at 09:21 PM
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Hi Ted, I was browsing the shots trying to pick up on what I thought your were experimenting with, first I thought f/11 then I realized flash balance perhaps. Well sir, they got so good on the 'Nutz' that I had to check the exif to make sure you did flash. They look very natural IMO with the flash fill in the latter ones.

Also seems your 300 2.8 is performing well with the TC on!

By the way, you certainly don't need to apologize ever for shots of yours we look at buddy I was always told an apology was an admission of guilt, better to say that you regret the inconvienence that you caused us And by the way I still had no problem being an Ohio guy and sharing your weather in relating to your Cardinal colors on a wet day in low light with flash!

And +1 on Tims line............Gotta love your spirit Ted!
Karl

Nov 16, 2008 at 10:25 PM
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Nice work Ted and good to see you haven't abandond us here at N & W. I like the titmouse and the first nut best. I do use fill flash as well with my 300 too, on overcast days or under canopy shaded perches. I can tell you used fill flash, which is great for detail, but I prefer to reduce the exposure a tad to look more natural so as the use of the flash is questionable in the image. Just my 2 cents.
Herb



Nov 16, 2008 at 11:08 PM
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Socrate I thank thee.

Ted

Shasoc wrote:
Ted, whatever you're doing it works.
Socrate




Roger thanks for the look and encouragement.

Ted

Rogerthehotel wrote:
Looks like you are making gooood progress. Keep them a coming.



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Nov 17, 2008 at 12:25 PM
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I missed the kaka Ted so I'm sure glad I got a chance to see these - awesome work my friend

Ken

Nov 17, 2008 at 01:43 PM
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Nello, I am glad you approve my friend. Thanks for the kind words.

Ted

Nello Milanese wrote:
These are sweet Ted great use of fill flash! not too much,not too little
Hey I recognize that black wire



Nov 17, 2008 at 03:56 PM
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Great set Ted like it very much,

Garen

Nov 17, 2008 at 06:05 PM
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Very nice series Ted!

J

Nov 17, 2008 at 08:47 PM
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I missed your last ones but these look very nice Ted. Keep them coming.
Martin

Nov 17, 2008 at 09:18 PM
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Thank you Mark.

Ted

mark fadely wrote:
I like these too Ted. Flash is difficult to get just right. You did well here.


The little birds can be fun and challenging. The nuthatch most of the time is easy to capture. Thanks so much for the reply Brenton.

Ted

Brenton Biggs wrote:
Ted, these are pretty shots!!! I like the nut thatch the most here! I almost got one to today but a few branches were in my line of sight


Karl I appreciate your indepth reply. Thanks ever so much. I will use the fill flash more in the future now I feel a little more comfortable with it. Certainly I am not afraid of trying something different.

Ted

Karl Witt wrote:
Hi Ted, I was browsing the shots trying to pick up on what I thought your were experimenting with, first I thought f/11 then I realized flash balance perhaps. Well sir, they got so good on the 'Nutz' that I had to check the exif to make sure you did flash. They look very natural IMO with the flash fill in the latter ones.

Also seems your 300 2.8 is performing well with the TC on!

By the way, you certainly don't need to apologize ever for shots of yours we look at buddy I was always told an apology was an admission of guilt, better to say that you regret the inconvienence that you caused us And by the way I still had no problem being an Ohio guy and sharing your weather in relating to your Cardinal colors on a wet day in low light with flash!

And +1 on Tims line............Gotta love your spirit Ted!
Karl



Nov 18, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Ted ellis
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Herb, thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it. I like participating on N&W. I have had many of great tips as a result. I played with dialing down the exposure and uping the flash prior to these last images. Methinks I went to far on those. I will give your suggestion a try.

Ted

HerHerb Houghton wrote:
Nice work Ted and good to see you haven't abandond us here at N & W. I like the titmouse and the first nut best. I do use fill flash as well with my 300 too, on overcast days or under canopy shaded perches. I can tell you used fill flash, which is great for detail, but I prefer to reduce the exposure a tad to look more natural so as the use of the flash is questionable in the image. Just my 2 cents.
Herb




Nov 18, 2008 at 01:28 PM
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Ted,

Nice to see you back on the forum, and, of course, always glad to hear you trying new things. Your flash images still betray the flash - what's your set-up?

I've been playing around with flash quite a bit this year, and find it to be much more complicated than tossing the flash on top of the camera. I always go full manual for mode - I guess I still trust my experience more than the experience of the flash unit.

I've had good luck with bouncing the light, which reduces white glare dramatically. I'm using a Demb Flip-It, which lets me adjust the amount of light going to the subject by tilting the bounce head forward or back. This means I'm always on full power for flash, which actually speeds up recycling time and extends battery life.

I've also found that if I have to set my WB to FLASH, I'm using too much flash on the subject. I like the Rule of Two Thirds - you try to throw the light about 2/3 of the way to the subject.

Keep it up. I always enjoy looking at good shots (and I enjoyed the little friends who posed for you), but I really enjoy seeing someone expanding his skillset -

Nov 18, 2008 at 01:41 PM
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first cardinal
second chickadee
second nut hatch
And the Titter
Great job on all of them Ted but those are my pixz

I missed the yesterday thing......... hmmmm... What did I miss??


ANt

Nov 18, 2008 at 03:25 PM
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...... Thanks Zoomer.

Ted

Mr Zoom wrote:
I missed the kaka Ted so I'm sure glad I got a chance to see these - awesome work my friend

Ken



Nov 18, 2008 at 06:11 PM
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Ok I'll ask what is a KAKA I don't like useing the flash on little birds but when I have I just set the camera mode to P and let it figure it out. I tried the M mode and it was no better but that is most likely me as I never did get along with a flash even when they were those blue things in a socket I would always burn my finger
It looks like it was raining Ted or did you turn the hose on them Anyway they look pretty good to me. Nice series for a flashy guy
Lou

Nov 18, 2008 at 07:06 PM

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