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p.2 #1 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

I know what you're saying but by the same token, you're only seeing a few hastily snapped photographs from the G1 - there could be 1.2 million reasons why these particular photos aren't tack-sharp.

The E410 is not entirely different from the G1 since it's the same sized sensor. Since I've owned both the E410 and a G1, I'm well aware that the E410+70-300 was much heavier and bigger than the G1+45-200 and the G1 combo has IS which makes it that much more useful.

People are under estimating how much smaller and versatile the G1 is than the E-4xx series with many features that are better, plus a smaller form factor. Usually when a camera gets features like IS, tilt 'n swivel LCD, better AF and nicer ergonomics the camera gets bigger not smaller! The fact that the G1 gets all these upgraded features and still manages to be smaller is awesome! Any smaller and I wouldn't be able to hold the thing - and I have small hands.

Nov 27, 2008 at 09:17 PM

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p.2 #2 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

Fair enough. I have to say that if I had the disposable cash right now, I'd own one already. I look forward to seeing the direction of the format. I think the liberation from the OVF is a great idea that was too long in coming.

Nov 27, 2008 at 09:28 PM

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jvarszegi wrote:
I think the liberation from the OVF is a great idea that was too long in coming.

Yep! I couldn't agree more. The EVF is way cool. Big problem for me right now is that the LCD 'gains up', even when you do an exposure lock. This will not work well with my GND filters - I need to see exactly what the picture will be when I actually take it. There must be a setting to change this, I haven't found it yet.

Nov 27, 2008 at 10:30 PM

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Vern Dewit wrote:
Big problem for me right now is that the LCD 'gains up', even when you do an exposure lock. This will not work well with my GND filters - I need to see exactly what the picture will be when I actually take it. There must be a setting to change this, I haven't found it yet.

There is a workaround, I can easily live with it, some find it a major pain and I agree Panasonic should have made this an user option. Anyway:
Lock the exposure and the press the garbage button. Now you can move around the camera without having the EVF automatically adjusting itself.
I think you should have the option Preview Hold, in the menu, for this to work.

Nov 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM

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p.2 #5 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

Thanks for that tip - I'll have to give it a try!

Nov 28, 2008 at 12:01 AM

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Roger - How does the EVF size feel? Like a 40D, 5D? One of the previews I read somewhere said that the EVF had a very large view, but I didn't know how to interpret that. Big to compared to what? Any other comments regarding the G1 versus the Canon G10 would be interesting too.

I find it much more like the 5D than the 40D. Its really quite good and as has been mentioned I found manually focusing through the viewfinder was remarkably accurate. Really quite nicely done. There's a little jerkiness sometimes if the viewfinder has to jump the gain (maybe 1/8 or 1/4 of a second) and I almost wish there was kind of a "zoom in" feature rather than "jump to high magnification" with the longer lenses - like I mentioned I lost my subject a couple of times. But I've taken maybe 4 dozen shots with manual focus, I'm sure I'd get a lot better with a little practice.

The one thing I realized playing around today is there's not much point doing this with a larger lens like the 150 f2.0 or the 50-200 - once you've got a big lens, there's not much sense having a small body. But I could see using the 50 f2 or 35 Macro with the adapter. And the 25 f2.8 would probably be a great little combination, more like what I was hoping the Sigma DP-1 would be.

Nov 28, 2008 at 01:58 AM

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I just got to play with a G1 and was frankly blown away. I'm currently using a Canon 5D for serious landscapes, an oly e520 for travel w/ some serious photography aspirations and when I'm just traveling and my wife won't put up with much photography, a Canon G9. I also use the G9 for underwater videos when snorkeling. The purpose of the oly gear was to have a camera I didn't mind carrying all day-- the 5d and 24-70L, etc, is just too big and heavy. But the Oly the viewfinder is really, really small. The image output is good--surely not as good as the 5D, but quite useful.

I'd not considered the G1 because I imagined it to replace my G9 and it wouldn't do that (particularly the videos). I had read that it had a EVF and that meant it was written off my list, until today-- when a relative brought one to Thanksgiving.

The EVF is extraordinary! It's almost as good as the 5D-- sharp, quick responding, and BIG and brighter than any optical finder can be. If you follow a rapidly moving object or quickly pan the camera you can get a tiny bit of jerkyness. It does get a bit grainy in low light, but DSLR viewfinders in general don't do all that well in the dark with today's slow lenses. It's really, really good. Even better, this is the first camera I've ever used where I can read all the data in the viewfinder. You can easily change things with the camera to your eye. You can get a live histogram in the viewfinder. It's truly an extraordinary tool. And, of course, it has the articulated LCD. I've not had one of those since my Canon G1, and I've missed it. I'm just too old and settled in my ways to compose most pictures on the LCD-- I need a viewfinder. But there are just some pictures where the articulated screen is the difference between getting and not getting the image.

The Panasonic folks have really put a lot of thought into this camera.

The G1 has a very solid feel to it--much like the G9. They say it's plastic but it feels better built than the Oly gear. I'm totally sold and now have one on order.

It's true that a e-420 is almost as small but the Oly lenses don't have IS. The 520 has IS and is a bit much bigger though not much heavier.

The Oly gear is going on the Buy and Sell forum soon.

Nov 28, 2008 at 05:15 AM

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p.2 #8 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

I haven't run into any unexpected IQ problems with the G1. Compared to the Olympus E-510 and E-3 I am happy to see the obvious banding problems to be gone as well as higher resolution.

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The USAF charts above were deloped with ACR (E-510) and Silkypix 3.0SE (G1) and made before the new DNG converter was available. Now we can use other raw converters as well and ACR is better than Silkypix at this (and Raw Therapee beats them both).

Here is from the first days with the G1:

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Above, A dying pelargonium makes an attempt. G1, Zuiko 90/2 Macro. The depicted part of the plant is approx 30mm. Not used to the samll sensor I stopped down to f/8 which made for some diffraction and also a tiny bit of movement.

It is hard to evaluate the background in the image above but I think there are some minor traces of blotchiness.

All in all I'm happy with the G1 images this far (not to speak about the viewfinder and the size and weight).

Nov 28, 2008 at 10:06 AM

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p.2 #9 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

Michael Reichmann seems to like the G1 too:

http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic-g1.shtml

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Nov 29, 2008 at 04:33 AM

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forestmage wrote:
Michael Reichmann seems to like the G10 too:

http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic-g1.shtml

Great little article - I always enjoy reading his reviews. I came away with much the same impression as he did. I gotta get that 45-200mm lens yet. That 7-14 will complete the perfect little travel kit, capable of high quality pictures.

V.

Nov 29, 2008 at 07:21 PM

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forestmage wrote:
Michael Reichmann seems to like the G10 too:

http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic-g1.shtml

Interesting overall look, but he's well and truly drunk the video kool-aid and it shows here.

I'm a photographer, I make pictures not video.

Nov 29, 2008 at 08:18 PM

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Vern Dewit wrote:
forestmage wrote:
Michael Reichmann seems to like the G10 too:

http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic-g1.shtml

Great little article - I always enjoy reading his reviews. I came away with much the same impression as he did. I gotta get that 45-200mm lens yet. That 7-14 will complete the perfect little travel kit, capable of high quality pictures.

V.

I'm looking forward to the 45-200 and the four-thirds adapter as I have a Zuiko 2/50 macro lens I'm looking forward to using with the G1. I don't think either of these are available yet in the shops here in the US.

I snapped this on the way home from swimming this afternoon and it is the first G1 shot I've processed in ACR.

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Nov 29, 2008 at 10:32 PM

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p.2 #13 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

If I wanted to shoot outdoors in good light and have a lot of DoF, I'd get a G10. But that's not what I'm looking for in a camera - the G1 is a completely different beast, so I'm not sure why you'd even compare them.

Dec 01, 2008 at 12:40 AM

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p.2 #14 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

am I missing the aforementioned comparison to the G10 Sam? (clicks back to look on page 1)

Dec 01, 2008 at 04:03 AM

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p.2 #15 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

Vern,

Beautiful set of photos.

Howard

Dec 01, 2008 at 05:29 AM

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Forest,

Very nice gallery.

Howard

Dec 01, 2008 at 05:34 AM

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forestmage wrote:
am I missing the aforementioned comparison to the G10 Sam? (clicks back to look on page 1)

Yes, Vern had mentioned it.

Dec 01, 2008 at 01:50 PM

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p.2 #18 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

Thanks Howard!

Dec 01, 2008 at 04:34 PM

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Sam Bennett wrote:
If I wanted to shoot outdoors in good light and have a lot of DoF, I'd get a G10. But that's not what I'm looking for in a camera - the G1 is a completely different beast, so I'm not sure why you'd even compare them.

I was referring to the prints. IMHO people are raving about the G9/G10 class of cameras but I've seen large prints and they don't seem to compare to the quality a camera like the G1 can achieve. That's all I meant. Obviously there are massive differences between a P&S and an SLR type camera.

Dec 01, 2008 at 04:48 PM

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I think what is worth noting jvarszegi is that it's obvious you have not handled the G1 with the 45-200. It is not small - it's positively tini. Shockingly small in a marvelous way. A way which opens up new possibilities.

I spent an hour shooting one in a store today. The image quality is superb. As soon as I get the 24 pc-e for my D700, the panasonic is next on my list and if the images I saw it take with those humble lenses are any indication, the D700 may get a lot more rest in the future. This thing is wow!

Dec 31, 2008 at 05:00 AM

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Pavel wrote:
I think what is worth noting jvarszegi is that it's obvious you have not handled the G1 with the 45-200. It is not small - it's positively tini. Shockingly small in a marvelous way. A way which opens up new possibilities.

I spent an hour shooting one in a store today. The image quality is superb. As soon as I get the 24 pc-e for my D700, the panasonic is next on my list and if the images I saw it take with those humble lenses are any indication, the D700 may get a lot more rest in the future. This thing is wow!

I agree...I handled one for a good while about a week ago. I had taken my G9 along for size comparison and they are very similar, altho' the very small 14-45 lens protrudes (of course) on the G1. I really liked the EVF--I shoot with a 5D and 400D---and I have dled 9 RAWs, processed all in LR 2.2 and printed several at 11 x 17 with the 3800. I've been waiting for a camera like this (for hiking, travel, long days of walking with no photographic intent where I would def. want the 5D and specific lenses)--I really dislike shooting with the G9 and rarely use it. So--last night I won an auction on Ebay with the Canadian store so many have bought from--a quite large savings over US stores. I should have mine next week. I don't plan to buy another lens until I shoot awhile with the kit (which most think is just very good), but know I need a fast lens and maybe one longer one (not sure if I'll buy the 45-200---which is available, 2 were sitting on the shelf as I tried the G1) since I don't shoot a lot over 90mm. 90-400 is WAY overkill for me LOL, but then who knows, this could change some of my shooting ways.

I don't have any alternative lenses but am def. considering some with adaptor eventually since everyone raves about the MF focusing--how easy, accurate and I like MF.

Diane

Dec 31, 2008 at 01:48 PM

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p.2 #22 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

What excites me most about this camera is the ability to mount just about any legacy lens, including Leica M lenses, with proper adapter. My G1 arrives today, and I'll be eager to get an M adapter to use my M lenses. What a perfect travel/street camera!

Dec 31, 2008 at 05:20 PM

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p.2 #23 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

jvarszegi wrote:
It's already not much smaller than a small DSLR body.

Uh, what?

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Or this:

Or even compared to an earlier Panasonic:

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Dec 31, 2008 at 08:44 PM

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p.2 #24 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

Tried one out today, VERY impressed with the size and handling. It's tiny (that 14-45 is about the length of, and much smaller diameter than a Canon 50mm f1.8). The EVF is quite good in most regards (poor colour, a little jello when panning, but very sharp and the MF assist is brilliant).

The click-wheel idea is also brilliant. Hope everybody else copies it for their 1-wheel interfaces.

I'm now seriously interested in one. Almost bought it today in fact.

Dec 31, 2008 at 09:02 PM

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p.2 #25 · A few Panasonic G1 shots

G1 with Novoflex M mount adapter, and the silly red dot.

Dec 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM


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