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dlew308 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #1 · RED RED has info on their new modular cameras. They'll be offered with various mounts including a nikon mount. The brains are pretty expensive. www.red.com Nov 13, 2008 at 04:13 PM

paparazzinick Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #2 · RED i would love to have one but my pockets arent that deep yet. Nov 13, 2008 at 04:31 PM

xof711 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #3 · RED More info here... Nov 13, 2008 at 04:46 PM

turnert Online Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #4 · RED http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?s=643d82db9fdd4e1ba9a7d19b9d245684&t=21835&page=3 ~Ted Nov 13, 2008 at 04:51 PM

lxdesign Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #5 · RED Saw this earlier today... it looks awesome! They actually screened a film this year at TIFF -- Toronto International Film Festival that was shot using one of these camera's from RED. Nov 13, 2008 at 07:00 PM

Todd Warnke Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #6 · RED Makes the rumored MX, not just plausible, but almost mandatory. And soon too. Peace, Todd Nov 13, 2008 at 07:38 PM

Mark Kenfield Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #7 · RED I suspected they'd have something completely modular like this in store, but I'm quite frankly blown away by the depth of it all though. Dynamic range still appears to be the weakest link in the chain though, they're suggesting 11+ stops on their new S35mm sensor, but that's only one stop more than they claim for their old S35mm sensor, and most reports I've heard give that about 8 stops at the most. The 13+ stops on their 35mm (still-frame sized) sounds better, but it won't accept PL-mount glass. Very, very exciting stuff. Nov 13, 2008 at 11:14 PM

Mike Yamin Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #8 · RED It would be great if Nikon struck back on this, but this thing is honestly too expensive to compete (even with it's great video capabilities). Don't get me wrong though, its still pretty darn cool. Nov 13, 2008 at 11:21 PM

xof711 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #9 · RED The DSMC system isn't really anything new from what Hassy and Leaf are offering (and cheaper) so I don't think this will be the DSLRs killer!! ------- DigitalFreak.net Nov 14, 2008 at 04:33 PM

josh paris Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #10 · RED impressive, no matter where your coming from...anything that pushes the envelope in these arenas will be a benefit for all of us down the line! Nov 14, 2008 at 04:52 PM

zoetmb Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #11 · RED It's not impressive until you see a result out of the camera. The "brain" component alone will be $12,000 for a full frame Scarlet and $35,000 for a full frame Epic. And that doesn't count power supplies, storage, lenses, lens mounts, etc. It had darned well perform well at those prices. Besides, imagine shooting with this thing. I could see it as a studio camera maybe....but this is not a camera that you could shoot candids, fast-moving sports or even a moving model with. And it's all vaporware anyway. And I bet in this recession, some of this stuff never gets produced. Nov 16, 2008 at 05:30 AM

Hendrik Offline Dedicated FM Moderator Upload & Sell: On p.1 #12 · RED I think this concept is the DSLR killer. Maybe not instantly, but in a longer run. The traditional SLR will disappear and hybrid camera’s (motion and still) will become mainstream. Today you already see this with the leading camera companies. Red is no different, only they come from the other direction, … and do it better. They create a precedent with their modular system. This is great for us, because companies must compete and can’t force us to throw away our old camera’s when a new product arrives. I would love to replace my D200 sensor for a 24MP version for $500, … but no it’s not possible. Maybe more companies will go to a modular system. Thank you RED. Personally, I’m also a bit sad. The art of photography will go away. Producers will film a model with e.g. 24 or 100 frames a second and simply choose one frame from the film for print. But then again, maybe Cinematography is cool also. Nov 16, 2008 at 08:34 AM

genoph Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #13 · RED This will never kill the DSLR. It will kill the Film Industry though. In Film, they still use film. If this flies, this will minimize their costs and produce better images. Upgradable, etc. Although I was working numbers on the storage, these cameras shoot raw. 261MP RAW @ 25 fps = roughly 5GB/s 300GB/min 18TB/h. Hard drives are about to get a lot bigger with 617 format Edit: Ah, I see, REDCODE RAW Compression *sigh of relief* Nov 16, 2008 at 09:34 AM

Lotusm50 Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #14 · RED So who is designing and making the RED lenses? It is unlikely that this is all in-house. Nov 16, 2008 at 08:12 PM

GraemeNattress Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #15 · RED Yes, it's the REDCODE RAW compression that makes this doable. The 617 will still make monster files though :-) I don't think high speed shooting takes anything away from photography, but instead opens up new possibilities and new creative opportunities. The primary skill of a photographer is not their ability to use a camera, but their ability to be creative. Graeme Nov 16, 2008 at 08:18 PM

Jammy Straub Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #16 · RED zoetmb wrote: The "brain" component alone will be $12,000 for a full frame Scarlet and $35,000 for a full frame Epic. And that doesn't count power supplies, storage, lenses, lens mounts, etc. It had darned well perform well at those prices. At those price ranges though it's sooo much more affordable for a start up film company than a Panavision. For $16,000 you can basically own your own versus renting a traditional camera. That's going to appeal to some people. I wonder how Red is doing these days though. I don't think they're a really high volume manufacturer. Nov 16, 2008 at 08:24 PM

GraemeNattress Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #17 · RED We're doing just fine, thanks. We're all very excited about the new products and are working very hard on them right now. I hope you get to enjoy what we come up with. Graeme Nov 16, 2008 at 08:27 PM

Jammy Straub Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #18 · RED GraemeNattress wrote: We're doing just fine, thanks. Graeme That's great to hear! Nov 16, 2008 at 08:32 PM

Mark Kenfield Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #19 · RED Jammy Straub wrote: I wonder how Red is doing these days though. I don't think they're a really high volume manufacturer. Actually Jammy they're a very high volume manufacturer. I'm not aware of any 35mm (equivalent) camera that's ever been produced in as high a volume as the Red One already has been. GraemeNattress wrote: We're doing just fine, thanks. We're all very excited about the new products and are working very hard on them right now. I hope you get to enjoy what we come up with. Graeme Graeme, you guys are on FM now?! Wow, you really are everywhere on the internet! Nov 17, 2008 at 01:12 AM

GraemeNattress Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #20 · RED That's probably just me as I'm a forum junkie. Graeme Nov 17, 2008 at 01:14 AM

Jammy Straub Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #21 · RED Mark Kenfield wrote: Jammy Straub wrote: I wonder how Red is doing these days though. I don't think they're a really high volume manufacturer. Actually Jammy they're a very high volume manufacturer. I'm not aware of any 35mm (equivalent) camera that's ever been produced in as high a volume as the Red One already has been. Seriously? Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that. Nov 17, 2008 at 01:36 AM

genoph Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #22 · RED YOu must be talking industry wise Mark? I mean, sure, they're selling 35mm equivelant cameras, but is that a fat market? I know they're doing well in it though, my buddy's school just bought a bunch for their film program. EPIC looking very fine Graeme, I'll probably never see one, but Congratulations on breaking the market, here's to seeing modular design in DSLR's!! Nov 17, 2008 at 03:40 AM

SoundHound Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #23 · RED As technoid as film is reputed to be it's essentially no more than commercial art. When the first digital cine cameras came out the producers embraced them figuring they could save on costs of film stock, editing and crew costs, etc. But, instead, it turned out that their labor costs escalated. All due to the highlight overload properties of digital sensors (somewhat like contrasty overexposed film transparency). They need more people, time and equipment to get the "Film Look" they had been selling for years. Also the camera crew added yet another position to the camera crew (DP, Operator, 1st Assistant and sometimes 2nd Assistant/loader)-that of "Camera Tech." I just visited my friend working on the crew of a Disney TV series and he says that much of the long form TV product has reverted to film. Big films have the pace and resources to control lighting but until digital sensors get the real "Film Look" Kodak and Fugi will be making cine film. Nov 17, 2008 at 06:14 PM

Ariel Bravy Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #24 · RED Hendrik wrote: Personally, I’m also a bit sad. The art of photography will go away. Producers will film a model with e.g. 24 or 100 frames a second and simply choose one frame from the film for print. But then again, maybe Cinematography is cool also. People keep saying this, but I have no idea why they think it is so. Sure it'll be easier to time fast-paced shots, but it's not like suddenly the art of photography will go down the gutter. The frame rate isn't necessary for shooting landscapes, studio work, and so on, nor will it make people lose their ability to come up with creative compositions or improve their lighting. I could see it help people better time sports, macros, or wildlife shots, but in what way will it make the art of photography go away? Nov 20, 2008 at 03:21 AM

genoph Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #25 · RED We used to shoot film both cinematically and Photographically, what makes people think digital will be different? Nov 20, 2008 at 06:46 AM

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