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p.1 #1 · Rumor - D3X In December!


OK, maybe:

http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/d3x-is-coming-in-december.aspx

I don't know how reliable this is, but it sure seems to go with most of the speculation.

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:38 PM
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I can believe a D3X coming out, but i don't believe that it'll be 9fps and "faster high-speed for sports". The D3 is effectively the high speed camera for sports that replaces the D2H, the D3X should be the high resolution landscape and studio camera that replaces the D2X.

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:43 PM
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If the jeff-c comment is true about Nikon rejecting the Sony sensor and working designing a new one, thus holding the D3X from the Photokina show, I wouldn't see why this wouldn't be a good time frame to get the issue solved like the sensor. If we dont see it this year, we could see the D3x at WPPI along with that "big" release.

Does Nikon have a video camera line? What if they release a video camera that shoots stills as well as the D3? Wouldn't that be pretty big ? They just released that video headset. But a video camera using Nikon 35mm lenses and other ones too.

Chris

Oct 08, 2008 at 06:15 PM
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It doesn't make any sense. So you are paying $2,000 more for double the megapixel? And what would a sport photographer do with a 24.4 mp sensor? I guess it might be useful to be used as a 12.2 mp crop camera

I will be thankful if it is $6,499. Maybe the D3 would not take so much crap on the used market. I am having to list mine at $3,600 and I am still getting low ball offers in the 3K range.

Oct 08, 2008 at 07:08 PM
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I was thinking that the $6499 price was a steal to tell you the truth. Canon's answer is $8000!

In addition, this would replace both my D3 and D300 in one fell swoop. Even if the alleged 9FPS was in crop mode, that's still pretty close to the D300 in resolution, so I'm good with that. To me, this would be the ultimate all around camera and the first time I can say, OK, I think I'm done for awhile! (Of course, the D4 would up the MP slightly and - more importantly - probably have huge dynamic range, but I'm getting ahead of myself :-)

Steve

Oct 08, 2008 at 07:14 PM
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I keep crossing my fingers for 16bits of usable data per pixel.

Oct 08, 2008 at 08:19 PM
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16bit images + 24+ megapixels would result in a nice crop :-)

Oct 08, 2008 at 08:21 PM
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Chris Langer wrote:
Does Nikon have a video camera line? What if they release a video camera that shoots stills as well as the D3? Wouldn't that be pretty big ? They just released that video headset. But a video camera using Nikon 35mm lenses and other ones too.

Chris


in the late 80's early 90's nikon had a few 8mm camcorders, but were actually sony's with a nikon logo. There has always been a relationship between nikon & sony. Who knows really?

Oct 08, 2008 at 08:30 PM
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tuannie wrote:
It doesn't make any sense. So you are paying $2,000 more for double the megapixel? And what would a sport photographer do with a 24.4 mp sensor? I guess it might be useful to be used as a 12.2 mp crop camera

I will be thankful if it is $6,499. Maybe the D3 would not take so much crap on the used market. I am having to list mine at $3,600 and I am still getting low ball offers in the 3K range.



I on the other hand am patiently waiting for the D3 to fall bellow 3K

Oct 08, 2008 at 09:46 PM
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Justin Berman wrote:
I keep crossing my fingers for 16bits of usable data per pixel.


and if they did just what could/would you do with it?

Oct 08, 2008 at 09:49 PM
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sjms wrote:
Justin Berman wrote:
I keep crossing my fingers for 16bits of usable data per pixel.


and if they did just what could/would you do with it?


truncate half of it and save as a jpeg to get it printed, obviously!

Oct 08, 2008 at 09:52 PM
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yeah.... just as i thought.

Oct 08, 2008 at 09:55 PM
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Also, wouldn't that mean 137MB+ files! Do you have a beowulf cluster of Crays or something?

Oct 08, 2008 at 09:57 PM
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Wow, is that like the first ever "beowulf cluster" comment on FM
(this is not slashdot kiddies )


Oct 09, 2008 at 12:42 AM
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Steve Perry wrote:
I was thinking that the $6499 price was a steal to tell you the truth. Canon's answer is $8000!

In addition, this would replace both my D3 and D300 in one fell swoop. Even if the alleged 9FPS was in crop mode, that's still pretty close to the D300 in resolution, so I'm good with that. To me, this would be the ultimate all around camera and the first time I can say, OK, I think I'm done for awhile! (Of course, the D4 would up the MP slightly and - more importantly - probably have huge dynamic range, but I'm getting ahead of myself :-)

Steve


+1 Steve. The only thing that stops me getting the D3 is the lack of reach of the FX sensor over the D300. To effectively get both in 1 body would be the answer to my prayers. But then again, I already have the D300, I could get the D3 as a 2nd body once the prices drop on the release of the D3X.

D300 for sports and wildlife, D3 for portraits, high ISO stuff. Both for weddings etc.

Hmmmmmmmm......a cunning plan my lord !

Andy

Oct 09, 2008 at 12:58 AM
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firewireguy wrote:
Also, wouldn't that mean 137MB+ files! Do you have a beowulf cluster of Crays or something?

my thoughts exactly!!! That is the curse of the Digital Revolution tho...
A D3X will fill a 2TB NAS pronto

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Oct 09, 2008 at 05:37 AM
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cadman342001 wrote:
Steve Perry wrote:
I was thinking that the $6499 price was a steal to tell you the truth. Canon's answer is $8000!

In addition, this would replace both my D3 and D300 in one fell swoop. Even if the alleged 9FPS was in crop mode, that's still pretty close to the D300 in resolution, so I'm good with that. To me, this would be the ultimate all around camera and the first time I can say, OK, I think I'm done for awhile! (Of course, the D4 would up the MP slightly and - more importantly - probably have huge dynamic range, but I'm getting ahead of myself :-)

Steve


+1 Steve. The only thing that stops me getting the D3 is the lack of reach of the FX sensor over the D300. To effectively get both in 1 body would be the answer to my prayers. But then again, I already have the D300, I could get the D3 as a 2nd body once the prices drop on the release of the D3X.

D300 for sports and wildlife, D3 for portraits, high ISO stuff. Both for weddings etc.

Hmmmmmmmm......a cunning plan my lord !

Andy



The reach loss bothered me for a while when i was trying to decide which one to get next the D2x or the D3. And the high iso would suffer with the D2x vs a D300w/grip for the same reach.

Conclusion i came to was a D3 and a 1.4x for when the reach is critical. The D3(if i can find one used for under 3k after christmas) and the 300 f/4 + a 1.4x Will still give better performance than My D80 with my 70-300 and most likely. Or a 1Dmk3 and a 400 5.6 since nikon doesn't make a 400 5.6

But for the reasons i want a new body I think the reach is the only thing that was holding me back from a D3(that and the cost) and for those shots a 1.4x can cure it i believe.

Funny how one of the greatest things when I went digital was the free reach my lenses got over film, and now loosing that reach again. But I would get my wides back ...



Oct 09, 2008 at 01:32 PM
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p.1 #18 · Rumor - D3X In December!


firewireguy wrote:
sjms wrote:
Justin Berman wrote:
I keep crossing my fingers for 16bits of usable data per pixel.


and if they did just what could/would you do with it?


truncate half of it and save as a jpeg to get it printed, obviously!



Or use a modern printer that works with 16-bit files...

Oct 09, 2008 at 01:55 PM
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firewireguy wrote:
Also, wouldn't that mean 137MB+ files! Do you have a beowulf cluster of Crays or something?



Why would you need anything special to handle those dinky little files? You've obviously never worked with medium-format film scans...

Oct 09, 2008 at 01:56 PM
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well at least a few of you here see what i'm getting at. the gotta have it for the sake of having it and can't do a thing with it group is alive and well.

Oct 09, 2008 at 01:58 PM
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molson wrote:
firewireguy wrote:
Also, wouldn't that mean 137MB+ files! Do you have a beowulf cluster of Crays or something?



Why would you need anything special to handle those dinky little files? You've obviously never worked with medium-format film scans...


well working with a dozen medium format scans and 1500 files from a days shooting.

horses for courses.

Oct 09, 2008 at 03:40 PM
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p.1 #22 · Rumor - D3X In December!


Gee, and I was happy with my D300/D700 combo. I guess I'm just out of touch with reality!

24 megapixels? Man, I thought the 12 megapixel files were filling up my multiple NAS drives. It never ends. I suspect if Nikon comes out with this, Canon will have to come out with a 29 mp answer to it, requiring a 31 mp answer from Nikon, bringing us a 39 mp answer from Canon... all with better noise reduction and speed than before.

Then all of a sudden someone will ask if anyone has actually had one of these long enough to take any photos other than samples - well no, because a new camera just came out and I was taking samples with it!

Storage won't be a problem, because the new 10 terabit drives that are bound to be released shortly so downloading your 256 Gb CF cards won't be so bad on the drive space. Obtain one of the new Buffalo Terastations with 10 of those bad boys and you'll be set up with a 90 terabit storage unit in a RAID 5 configuration. Problem solved... until Nikon releases the new tera-pixel sensor...

Seriously, the advancements are wonderful. You don't have to buy the latest to get great results, regardless of whether you shoot Nikon or Canon. In all, I think we will benefit from them, unless one is into cycling through gear using buy and sell. The used market is taking the biggest hit. I just bought the D700 a couple of months ago (I think) and it already is dropping in price. But I am enjoying it. It is a great photo-taking machine, and that is really what I bought it for. Same thing with the D300.

When I decide it is time to upgrade, the rate at which the new releases are coming out dictates that the jump is likely to be huge. That's okay by me. While I tried to keep up to take advantage of the advances, I think I'll just enjoy what I have for a while. I'll get to the newer gear soon enough. Besides, does anyone really think 24 megapixels will actually make us take better photographs? Higher resolution, maybe, but probably not any better. I think we've already surpassed film.

David

Oct 09, 2008 at 04:03 PM
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... 1500 files from a days shooting.



Some time invested in photography lessons might help there... or just shoot JPEGs

Oct 09, 2008 at 04:45 PM
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Well look at it this way... after everyone upgrades and realizes that they don't need 22-29mp sensors... Our current lineup will be worth more money!!!! har.

Oct 09, 2008 at 04:56 PM
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For me personally, this is the perfect camera. I LOVE to print big (20x30) and I'll take all the extra (good quality) pixels I can get! Sure, you can up rez a 12MP file, but does anyone think that the uprezzed file is going to even be on par? Please...

If I could afford a digital hassy with a 39MP back, you can bet that's what I'd be shooting landscapes with!

Plus, if I need to crop, I have lots of overhead to work with (great for wildlife). Soon as it's announced, I'm ordering one from my local camera store.

Besides, two or three years ago, many of the same people now shooting 12MP would argue that 6 or 8 was more than enough, who wants to store that much data, I'd need a faster computer, 400 ISO is all I'd ever want ect... I wonder if any of those folks ever upgraded...

Steve

Oct 09, 2008 at 05:13 PM

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