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p.1 #1 · Please critique...


Starting to get the hang of composition and PP. Please let me know what you think. More critical the better, been having problems underexposing and not really knowing it. Am I overexposing now? Everyone's input in the past has been more than helpful. Thanks in advance.

1) Little soft, think it was shot wide open with 50mm f/1.4


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2) Piddled forever to achieve this look I wanted. What do you think?


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3) She's probably getting sick of the camera.


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4) "Taking in the world ahead of me"


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5) This one seems hard to process (i.e. child's head. reflector?). Thoughts?


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Oct 07, 2008 at 08:34 PM
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p.1 #2 · Please critique...


Here we go again. Don't be fooled by all the talk about negative space. Your first shot, in a horizontal instead of vertical frame for a portrait, just looks off center. When you have more experience to judge by, you can attempt that kind of fake composition.
Portraits in general look better in vertical and at least close to center, mostly. If you look around you, you will see it yourself, in spite of the miguided crowd on here.
You might have an argument with your wife if you hang that first pic in the Living room wall.
The second shot is great, but three has too much headroom. On number four, twenty years from now, people will ask, who's the kid?
Number five I won't comment on.

Oct 07, 2008 at 09:21 PM
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p.1 #3 · Please critique...


CircleMGraphic wrote:
More critical the better


Wow, didn't mean go for the throat! All kidding aside, thanks for the input.

1) Have no clue what you are talking about 'discussions of negative space".
2) Argument about picture #1 ? Elaborate please.
3) Agree with headroom in #3, going to crop for 8x10 which will eliminate alot of it.
4) Concerning picture #5, I know it's attrocious, but I'm trying to figure out what would help bring the face out in this kind of shot (putting PP aside for a second). I didn't notice the halo on the treeline till after I posted.

Thanks again.

Oct 07, 2008 at 10:54 PM
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p.1 #4 · Please critique...


My comments are offered in a friendly tone of voice and with the sole intent to help you.

First...cute kid. Lucky parents.

1. The #1 image looks overexposed. When you start to lose skin texture it is overexposed. My Simple Suggestion: don't shoot at f1.4 until you have a good handle on exposure. Try f2.8 and leave more of the face in focus if possible. Use a calibrated monitor to judge "exposure" and do not judge from prints until you get your calibration down on the monitor and then matched to the printer.

2. #2 a cluttered scene with several "subjects." Simple Suggestion: Simplify.

3. #3 Avoid "brilliant bars" cutting across the head or behind one.

4. #4 show more of the scene...or more of the face.

5. #5 show less of the weeds in front of the face.

My general "impression" of the last image is a sad one. It appears as if the child is crying because it is being abandoned in the weeds.

I hope these comments help you.

Oct 07, 2008 at 11:03 PM
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p.1 #5 · Please critique...


CircleMGraphic wrote:
been having problems underexposing and not really knowing it. Am I overexposing now? .


what do you shoot with? how do you meter? do you use your histogram? Manual/AV/TV? Jpg or RAW?

learning to meter & use light to your advantage will erase your question ... are you just fiddling with the dials on your camera & saying a silent prayer?

In future, please include the image settings along with the images, it will help us help you

#1 - too much empty (negative) space on the right, that is ok, if the subject is looking towards the negative space, but an uncentered image without purpose is, well, uncentered ... portrait (vertical) orientation would work better on this image

#2 - I don't mind the kid being out of focus, but feel both the dog & the man should be in focus, maybe it's a personal nit, but I'm drawn to the man before the dog, and the man is soft a deeper DOF would help this image

#3 - if you plan on cropping 8x10, then crop for the viewers enjoyment too, right now, just too much negative space above, my eyes are drawn to the bars/grid, not the cute kid, as you progress, you'll learn to frame a shot with your extra space below, so it would still be all kid in the image, regardless of the crop, equal room around the subject allows for a variety of crops
- also, more light to the eyes, too dark, the eyes are your subject, bring your viewer to them

#4 - your kid? you think it is a cute shot? more of a snap than a portrait, zooming out, leaving more space for us to see where she's looking may help, right now, it is just a tight shot of the back/side of her also, by zooming out, if there's something close by to judge how little she is in comparison, it could add to the shot.

#5 - too much distraction in front of her, shallower dof, working around the grass, so it doesn't block her face, and more bokeh behind so she's the only thing in focus would add to this image wider aperature, raise your shutter speed to compensate would lessen your DOF (DOF = depth of field)




Oct 07, 2008 at 11:35 PM
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p.1 #6 · Please critique...


Ok, guess it's back to the drawing board.

Thanks all for the input.

Oct 08, 2008 at 12:04 AM
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p.1 #7 · Please critique...


these might not be perfect images...I won't repeat what everyone else has said...but let's just step back for a sec...These are good images of a cute kid...you captured good moments, regardless of the techs of the images.

Oct 08, 2008 at 12:45 AM
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Very cute kid...

1. Yes, very soft. I'm all for negative space when it works, but in this case, her face right in the middle (and in focus) would have been an awesome shot! f/1.4 is tough!

2. Nothing seems to be in focus. I'm initially drawn to the man, but he's out of focus.

3. Great smile, wrong background. The horizontal bar distracts.

4. Get lower. Also, your title says "Taking in the world ahead of me" but you show nothing of the world ahead of her.

5. She looks scared.

I hope these comments help. Be encouraged. It's a great learning process!

Tim

Oct 08, 2008 at 12:53 AM
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p.1 #9 · Please critique...


Agreed.

Not to keep this thread growing, but a comment was made about the eyes being dark. I see pictures with the iris of the eye being VERY bright and colorful, wish I had a picture at hand right now to show an example. Is this due in part to lighting setup or post processing ?

Oct 08, 2008 at 12:57 AM
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CircleMGraphic wrote:
Agreed.

Not to keep this thread growing, but a comment was made about the eyes being dark. I see pictures with the iris of the eye being VERY bright and colorful, wish I had a picture at hand right now to show an example. Is this due in part to lighting setup or post processing ?


Yes, a lot of eye "brightening" is done in pp.


Oct 08, 2008 at 03:08 AM
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p.1 #11 · Please critique...


properly exposed eyes will be brighter than underexposed eyes, this can be done with natural light (face the light source), bounced light (using a reflector), or fill light (flash, strobe or hot)

yes, some of the lovely eyes you see posted are enhanced in post, but if the detail is not there to begin with, you can't enhance it.

here is an example of a quick enhancement
** forgot to type slight blues enhancement on the first adjustment image (about 5% blue painted on the eyes)

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Oct 08, 2008 at 03:40 AM

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