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Archive 2008 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE

  
 
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p.2 #1 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


you can also reduce the file size and not notice a huge reduction in quality. This video is 1920x1080, you can convert it in Quicktime pro ($20) to around 1280x720 HD h.264 and it will look just as good on your moniter and play easier.


Sep 27, 2008 at 10:14 PM
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p.2 #2 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


Gochugogi wrote:
Probably something wrong with your configuration.


Actually, there probably isn't anything wrong with Beni's config. See below.

I just played the helio clip full screen in QT on my 23" Cinema Display and it was smooth and beautiful--not a single hiccup. [...] I'm running a 2004 Apple G4 Duo (1.25GHz x 2) with ATI 9600 & only 2GB RAM.

There's no way in heck a Dual 1.25 G4 could handle those full-res clips without serious stuttering/frame drops. So the H.264 decoding must be offloaded to the ATI 9600 on that box.

I haven't tried it on my MacBook Pro (2.2GHz CoreDuo) but it's never had problems with HD content.

It will have problems with these clips, if the video card doesn't do H.264. A 2.2 GHz CoreDuo doesn't have quite enough power to decode these clips at the full 30 fps.



Sep 27, 2008 at 10:35 PM
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p.2 #3 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


moondigger wrote:
Mine is only 70 MHz slower... and I'm seeing slight hiccups on the clip I mentioned above. Put up your Movie Inspector window during playback and see if you get the full 30 fps during playback. Mine's fluctuating between 24 and 27 fps. When I convert the clip to 1080i, I get 30 fps.


For the very first second it says 27fps and then stays put at 30fps. I have music playing and most of my normal apps open.



Sep 28, 2008 at 11:40 AM
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p.2 #4 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


swanny338 wrote:
For the very first second it says 27fps and then stays put at 30fps. I have music playing and most of my normal apps open.


It's gotta be the video card, then. Mine has the NVIDIA 7600 GT. I'm guessing yours has one of the newer ATI cards that does hardware decoding of h.264.



Sep 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM
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p.2 #5 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


I have the same NVIDIA.


Sep 28, 2008 at 12:13 PM
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p.2 #6 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


Beni wrote:
I have the same NVIDIA.


The 7600 or the 7300? I don't think either does h.264 decoding... just curious about the model.



Sep 28, 2008 at 12:17 PM
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p.2 #7 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


7600 if I'm not mistaken.


Sep 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM
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p.2 #8 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


hmmm these play nicely on my lowly macbook


Sep 28, 2008 at 01:18 PM
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p.2 #9 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


Expecting 1080p @ 30fps to run smoothly on any computer is just simply being naive. This is HD video and you do need a nicely specced computer to play these kinds of files, that's just the nature of full HD video. Why would it be any different with HD files coming from a DSLR?

You can also try these files (the 1080p ones) and see if they do play properly on your computer. I'm sure the 1080p ones on there are just as tough on your system than the ones coming from the 5D MKII.

Edited on Sep 28, 2008 at 01:45 PM · View previous versions



Sep 28, 2008 at 01:34 PM
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p.2 #10 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


Works smooth on my Macbook Pro 17". Despite Aperture and 12 other programs running at the same time.


Sep 28, 2008 at 01:34 PM
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p.2 #11 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


I don't see any problem with imac 2.8 extreme, 24'', and ati 2600HD video card.


Sep 28, 2008 at 01:41 PM
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p.2 #12 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


It seems to be a PC problem with .mov files.


Sep 28, 2008 at 02:21 PM
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p.2 #13 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


Beni wrote:
It seems to be a PC problem with .mov files.


extremely doubtful.

2.4 dual core + 2 gigs of ram + Nvidia 8800 (320 ram) and it runs perfectly via quicktime.




Sep 28, 2008 at 05:11 PM
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p.2 #14 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


Mine 3.0G dual core + 4GB Ram + Nvidia 8600GTS runs perfectly too on QT


Sep 28, 2008 at 10:12 PM
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p.2 #15 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


My iMac 20" Core2Duo 21.6 GHz with 128 MB graphics card and 3 GB of RAM has no problems playing these clips.


Sep 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM
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p.2 #16 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


The key factor here appears to be whether the video card supports h.264 decoding or not. If it does (and if the playback software recognizes such), playback is smooth on pretty much any modern hardware, including something as old (in computer terms) as a 1.25 GHz dual G4 system. However, if the video card doesn't support h.264 decoding, that means the main CPU(s) must do the decoding in addition to everything else. In that case, the cutoff is probably around 2.66 GHz... below that, there is likely to be some amount of stuttering. 2.66 GHz and above, it appears to be alright.


Sep 28, 2008 at 11:01 PM
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p.2 #17 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


No problem playing the clips on a PC.

How much RAM have you guys got that are having problems?


The first clip is OK, nothing to write home about.

The second clip, the low light one, looks terrible.

The third clip in decent light looks pretty damn good.


Huge number of dead pixels.






Sep 28, 2008 at 11:03 PM
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p.2 #18 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


Mike V wrote:
The first clip is OK, nothing to write home about.

The second clip, the low light one, looks terrible.

The third clip in decent light looks pretty damn good.

Huge number of dead pixels.


Are you sure you're looking at the same clips? All three are stunning compared with any dedicated video camera on the market, especially the night scenes.



Sep 28, 2008 at 11:23 PM
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p.2 #19 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


My lowly, budget HTPC runs this just fine with an entry level AMD x2, 2 GB of ram.
The key is I bought a motherboard with an integrated graphics chip that can play HD-DVD and BluRay without tasking the CPU. It's an AMD 790 chipset with ATI graphics.

Most add on cards from ATI or Nvidia designed recently will decode HD codecs just fine.
If you have a question if it does this or not, just look up your model number on Nvidia or AMD/ATI's website.



Sep 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
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p.2 #20 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE


moondigger wrote:
Are you sure you're looking at the same clips? All three are stunning compared with any dedicated video camera on the market, especially the night scenes.


Maybe you are just used to seeing images from really bad video cameras?





Sep 29, 2008 at 01:48 AM
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