Medium format in an oversized 35mm body. In my opinion, this makes it very useful for fashion, and some landscape work. But it lacks the sophistication of the traditional MF bodies which makes it less of a studio camera.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I don't think the Leica S will be an SLR. With current technology such as Live View and the much better EVF which are coming from Panasonic(who has close ties to Leica anyway), a mirror is no longer needed and the benefits of not having one are great.
The picture in the magazine shows what appears to be a prism bulge, implying the usual SLR mirror arrangement.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I don't think the Leica S will be an SLR. With current technology such as Live View and the much better EVF which are coming from Panasonic(who has close ties to Leica anyway), a mirror is no longer needed and the benefits of not having one are great.
No LCD is anywhere close to good enough to focus a 37MP camera with, unless you spend a minute fiddling with a zoomed Live View for every shot. God I hope not...
I'll take EVFs seriously when they have 30+ MP 4" LCD screens
edwardkaraa wrote:
Medium format in an oversized 35mm body. In my opinion, this makes it very useful for fashion, and some landscape work. But it lacks the sophistication of the traditional MF bodies which makes it less of a studio camera.
How can you say it lacks sophistication if it hasn't even been announced yet?
edwardkaraa wrote:
Medium format in an oversized 35mm body. In my opinion, this makes it very useful for fashion, and some landscape work. But it lacks the sophistication of the traditional MF bodies which makes it less of a studio camera.
We don't know that yet. It already looks much more interesting than a Mamiya 645, by virtue of the leaf lenses and the tilt shift, and just the Leica glass is enough for me to take it very seriously.
It implies that but there are so many other practical issues which don't jive with this camera being a typical SLR. The size as stated - just larger than a 5D, and the lens selection and body depth. I guess we will know soon. By the way, Panasonic just made a breakthrough with regard to EVF.
foxbat wrote:
The picture in the magazine shows what appears to be a prism bulge, implying the usual SLR mirror arrangement.
Looks pretty sweet. But, like others have mentioned, the lack of modularity of a removable back (like MFDB) maybe a loser for some. Very cool to see a company develop such a well planned system in so short amount of time.
That would be one sweet dream camera, but come on!!! You think there were a lot of people complaining about 1Ds3 being too costly. Who in their right mind could afford a camera in the $20-30k, not to mention the $8-14K lenses. Besides, is the quality that much higher to demand that price? It's not technically possible. Take the top of the line Nikon or Canon along with their best lens and put it up against the Leica S2 and it's top lens.
I don't know too much about Nikon, but let's start with the Canon 1Ds3 ($6500) with the 200mm f/2L IS ($5000) against the Leica S2 ($20k) and lens ($15k). Shoot the same subject by the same photographer. A $11.5k system versus a $35k+ system? You can't tell me that the $35k+ system will put Canon to shame...at least not to the extent to warrant an extra $24k. I could practically buy every Canon lens out their for the cost of the Leica S2 and lens.
Leica's great (from what I have read), but unless you have endless amount of money to spend, it doesn't really matter what Leica comes out with. Of course, it makes for an interesting read.
This is a new, larger format than 35mm and competes with and is in the same price ballpark as Hasselblad, PhaseOne, Leaf, Sinar, etc. The prices are relatively comparable. A 35mm DSLR is not the competition anymore than it is for the existing MF systems.
Mere mortals could not afford this thing, just as many of us can't afford the top of the line MF systems. Leica must build their brand on "the best IQ available anywhere at any price." If they can do that, there will be a demand for this. This is where they had fallen behind with the advent of cheap DSLR's.
eonflux wrote:
That would be one sweet dream camera, but come on!!! You think there were a lot of people complaining about 1Ds3 being too costly. Who in their right mind could afford a camera in the $20-30k, not to mention the $8-14K lenses. Besides, is the quality that much higher to demand that price? It's not technically possible. Take the top of the line Nikon or Canon along with their best lens and put it up against the Leica S2 and it's top lens.
I don't know too much about Nikon, but let's start with the Canon 1Ds3 ($6500) with the 200mm f/2L IS ($5000) against the Leica S2 ($20k) and lens ($15k). Shoot the same subject by the same photographer. A $11.5k system versus a $35k+ system? You can't tell me that the $35k+ system will put Canon to shame...at least not to the extent to warrant an extra $24k. I could practically buy every Canon lens out their for the cost of the Leica S2 and lens.
Leica's great (from what I have read), but unless you have endless amount of money to spend, it doesn't really matter what Leica comes out with. Of course, it makes for an interesting read....Show more →
foto-z wrote:
We don't know that yet. It already looks much more interesting than a Mamiya 645, by virtue of the leaf lenses and the tilt shift, and just the Leica glass is enough for me to take it very seriously.
Mamiya 645 has a T/S (PhaseOne/Hartblei 45/3.5 announced a few weeks ago and the old M645 50mm f4 Shift) and Leaf Shutter lenses should be here shortly as PhaseOne has promised at least one by the end of 2008.
If you are looking at new systems larger than the 35mmDSLR's, and desire AF, you have as follows:
*FujiBlads
*Mamiya (Z & 645 systems, and the re-badged PhaseOne counterpart)
*Rollie (and its re-badged counterparts- Leaf & Sinar)
*Sinar m.
Lots of rancour over the Fujiblad's. Slow AF, lenses sort of okay, closed platform regarding the digital back, etc, etc.
Regarding Rollie, in the US, it is difficult to find and get quick support for the lenses making it a risky choice for a working pro.
Sinar m is an ergonomic nightmare, priced into oblivion, the Hum-Vee of cameras.
That leaves just the Mamiya systems. Leica most likely that as an opening for a larger than 35mmDSLR platform with excellent German optics.
jjlphoto wrote:
If you are looking at new systems larger than the 35mmDSLR's, and desire AF, you have as follows:
*FujiBlads
*Mamiya (Z & 645 systems, and the re-badged PhaseOne counterpart)
*Rollie (and its re-badged counterparts- Leaf & PhaseOne)
*Sinar m. .
The Rolleiflex Hy6 is rebadged as the Sinar Hy6 and the Leaf AFi. Phase One does not offer anything for this platform.
