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Breitling65 wrote:
I am printing 20x30 inch from 10mpx mk III superbly, not sure what else should I see on this picture with higher mpx? Also modern photography world is computer/lcd but not paper printed images. In 10-20 years nobody will use paper pictures, that would be LCD screens already for sale in small sizes.

First off, I didn't say you couldn't uprez files from other cameras. I simply and clearly said you could print natively 16" wide with a 50D... And you said, "In 10-20 years nobody will use paper pictures"... What? Can I tell the art gallery that sells my prints that you said this? They prefer my 24x36" prints, those are the best sellers. Should I start displaying them on huge LCD screens in the galleries? Perhaps my fine art clients will just hang static images displayed on these big LCDs on the walls in their homes...

I apologize for the sarcasm, but if you think paper and printers are going away, you must simply lack perspective from this point of view. The art world is alive and well with our prints.

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Sep 23, 2008 at 08:32 PM

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Though Chris, you would admit that many photographic artists do display their pictures on LCD screens in galleries & that "electronic picture frames" are already popular in many homes?

I'm not arguing that paper prints will become obsolete but just making the point that there is growing competition from other forms of image display.

Sep 23, 2008 at 08:37 PM

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p.2 #3 · Show your first 50D samples..

In particular, the rise of higher resolution computer screens has certainly coincided with a dramatic reduction in the number of paper printed images. I know I print far fewer prints now I have large high quality screens to view my images on ...

Sep 23, 2008 at 08:46 PM

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p.2 #4 · Show your first 50D samples..

It's beginning to sound a lot like Dpreview around here. And that's not good.

Sep 23, 2008 at 08:55 PM

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Sep 23, 2008 at 09:02 PM

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What? Can I tell the art gallery that sells my prints that you said this? They prefer

That is what happening now, but even now most shot are published on Internet and visible on computers/lcd's. That was not the case 15 years ago!!!
Paper/printers for sure not in future of photography, photography as well might transform to something mixing with video

Sep 23, 2008 at 09:03 PM

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p.2 #7 · Show your first 50D samples..

Breitling65 wrote:
ChrisDM wrote:
Breitling65 wrote:

Did you find something in this samples you can't do with 40D?

Absolutely. Print them at native 16" wide without any uprezzing.

Chris M
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I am printing 20x30 inch from 10mpx mk III superbly, not sure what else should I see on this picture with higher mpx? Also modern photography world is computer/lcd but not paper printed images. In 10-20 years nobody will use paper pictures, that would be LCD screens already for sale in small sizes.

What - with the advent of this amazing new "photographic" artform, as some call it, WHO WILL EVER BY PAINTINGS! Time to sell the oils:

Sep 23, 2008 at 09:07 PM

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Breitling65 wrote:

What? Can I tell the art gallery that sells my prints that you said this? They prefer

That is what happening now, but even now most shot are published on Internet and visible on computers/lcd's. That was not the case 15 years ago!!!
Paper/printers for sure not in future of photography, photography as well might transform to something mixing with video

I don't sell LCD screens. I sell prints. I have never had a client tell me they wanted an LCD screen instead of a print.

I still use a print portfolio for my clients and I'm printing more than ever so I don't see the slow down. If it happens in 10-20 years then I guess I will have gotten my money worth out of my new 50D and 5DMKII.

Jim

Sep 23, 2008 at 09:34 PM

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globalkiwi wrote:
Though Chris, you would admit that many photographic artists do display their pictures on LCD screens in galleries & that "electronic picture frames" are already popular in many homes?

I've been to many, many art galleries and have never seen an LCD being used to display static art. The ones used in homes display vacation snapshots.

Sep 23, 2008 at 09:42 PM

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p.2 #10 · Show your first 50D samples..

Well, what can I say? I disagree with you. I've seen plenty of LCD's displaying "static" art & I know many serious photographers who primarily use hi-rez computer screens to view their pictures. But hey ... YMMV.

It's really not that important a point to argue about - & in any case I came here to see 50D samples!

Sep 23, 2008 at 09:47 PM

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i have to admit, i was a little smurfed when canon came out with a the 50D (with micro AF adjust to boot) one month after i got my 40D.

but am i going to poo poo the 50D because i blew my camera budget for the semester on its predecessor?

nein. it's probably a smurfy camera.

-dirty smurf

Sep 23, 2008 at 09:55 PM

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p.2 #12 · Show your first 50D samples..

The iso 3200 samples looked very clean to me,especially when exposed properly.When DPP NR was applied it was very impressive.If you look at that pic you can see the blackhead pores on her nose!!At iso 3200 Just my 2 cents worth
-Jim

Sep 23, 2008 at 10:18 PM

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p.2 #13 · Show your first 50D samples..

I don't sell LCD screens. I sell prints. I have never had a client tell me they wanted an LCD screen instead of a print.

Jim

You don't have to sell LCD

you will sell shots, but I don't think it is really important to have such huge mpx with even super modern and huge LCD.

Sep 23, 2008 at 10:34 PM

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globalkiwi wrote:
Well, what can I say? I disagree with you. I've seen plenty of LCD's displaying "static" art & I know many serious photographers who primarily use hi-rez computer screens to view their pictures. But hey ... YMMV.

It's really not that important a point to argue about - & in any case I came here to see 50D samples!

I'm not arguing, nor was there any opinion to disagree with. I just said that of the many galleries I've visited, I've never seen one display art photos on LCDs instead of prints.

Sep 23, 2008 at 10:46 PM

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Breitling65 wrote:

You don't have to sell LCD

you will sell shots, but I don't think it is really important to have such huge mpx with even super modern and huge LCD.

Once again, it's a matter of perspective you're lacking. If you or any photographer's only goal is to just look at your photos on a computer screen, then you don't need 15 megapixels. Hell, you don't need 5 megapixels. But some of us sell large prints, and for us megapixels do matter. Once again, a matter of perspective. Not right or wrong, just fact.

Sep 23, 2008 at 10:49 PM

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ocean7 wrote:

It's not about defending older gear. It's about do you _really_ need new gear.

Do you need a new television? Do you need a new car? Do you need a new house?

Definitely need? Probably no.
Want? Definitely!

Why?
Because if you can/afford to have better, then why shouldn't you?

Sep 23, 2008 at 10:52 PM

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ChrisDM wrote:
I'm not arguing, nor was there any opinion to disagree with. I just said that of the many galleries I've visited, I've never seen one display art photos on LCDs instead of prints.

No, you misinterpret me. Personally, I found your posts quite opinionated. What I was trying to say - I hoped in a good-natured way - was that the opinions asserted (e.g. the implication that true photographic art is only to be found in print form &/or the snobbish dismissal of those that choose to use electronic image displays) aren't appropriately disputed in a fora ostensibly dedicated to sharing images from the 50D.

Sep 23, 2008 at 11:48 PM

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ChrisDM wrote:
I'm not arguing, nor was there any opinion to disagree with. I just said that of the many galleries I've visited, I've never seen one display art photos on LCDs instead of prints.

I was just in this guys gallery in Moab last week. He had numerous large prints, but he also had one LCD with many images rotating from one to the next, but no static images on an LCD screen. His prints were amazing...

http://tomtill.com/pages/online-store.php

He also had this wild thing where the image was somehow weged in some sort of glass and backlit - it was very unique looking. He only had a couple of these and they were pricey!!

Sep 24, 2008 at 12:03 AM

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Yeah, I agree, slide shows of "static" images on LCD screens are increasingly common & in many ways quite cool because - like a book (& unlike a random pile of prints) - a narrative or series of juxtapositions can be created which creates a whole greater than the individual parts/prints ...

Sep 24, 2008 at 12:10 AM

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p.2 #20 · Show your first 50D samples..

Tom Till does AMAZING work and is a nice fella too. I bought a bunch of his post cards during a visit to his gallery (couldn't afford the prints) but his prints are possibly the best I have ever seen.

Sep 24, 2008 at 02:10 AM

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p.2 #21 · Show your first 50D samples..

saaketham wrote:
Did you find something in this samples you can't do with 40D?
Any macro photos of sour grapes taken with your 40D or a G7?

Any reason those photos couldn't be taken with a pinhole camera?

Sep 24, 2008 at 02:11 AM

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globalkiwi wrote:
ChrisDM wrote:
I'm not arguing, nor was there any opinion to disagree with. I just said that of the many galleries I've visited, I've never seen one display art photos on LCDs instead of prints.

No, you misinterpret me. Personally, I found your posts quite opinionated. What I was trying to say - I hoped in a good-natured way - was that the opinions asserted (e.g. the implication that true photographic art is only to be found in print form &/or the snobbish dismissal of those that choose to use electronic image displays) aren't appropriately disputed in a fora ostensibly dedicated to sharing images from the 50D.

It isn't my opinion htat true photographic art is only to be found in print form, but will most likely be bought in print form. In the example of the guy using an LCD to supplement his print displays, when a client chooses one of those, he'll purchase a print, not the LCD. I have a feeling Tom isn't selling his high res images on CD for people to take home and play on their TVs! There's nothing snobbish about that, it's just a part of the fine art form... And the commercial photography world is the same way: except for the tiny but growing microstock market, the photographers that are getting commissioned the big bucks are producing print ads. I don't see us giving up our magazines anytime soon. As is with prints, the tangible photograph has a special appeal that cannot be duplicated onscreen.

But let's not get off topic much further. The discussion is whether or not 15+ megapixels are useful. And the answer is no, not unless you make large prints. And some of us do. If it isn't for you, then there are many other wonderful, less pixel dense cameras for you to choose from.

Chris M
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Sep 24, 2008 at 12:46 PM

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p.2 #23 · Show your first 50D samples..

Damn... still no 50D samples

Sep 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM

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p.2 #24 · Show your first 50D samples..

Well, I'm still shooting with a 10D and would like to see some 50D images.

Sep 27, 2008 at 12:28 PM

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Sorry to double post. I've put this link on the 50D master thread but since it's applicable, I'll put it here too. I picked up a 50D yesterday (here is US). Here is a link to some of my 1D2N comparisons done so far. I wasn't too impressed at first but have found converting in ACR retains much more detail than DPP, while DPP is better for noise. Need to work more in DPP to find the sweet spot.

If anybody has any specific requests, let me know. I have a 1D2N, 50D, 17-40L, 28-70L, 85/1.8, 200/2.8L, 400/5.6L.

http://www.pbase.com/csd_5092/stuff__misc

Sep 27, 2008 at 05:33 PM


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