Thanks for that test. He does point out that he is getting another copy to try. I'm always a little suspect of drawing too much from a one lens test on a test chart. That does not account for many factors, including color, flare, etc. I'm also a little leary too as the 16-35II and the 14II were both dismissed early on as not any better or even worse the original, and that did not jive at all with my actual usage of them. Will see, but appreciate the link...interesting.
I tested three copies of the 16-35 v 1 and then compared it against someone else who had tried 3 copies.. so we have two outstanding copies. I admit, these particular copies did better at the wider focal range (16 to 20-24ish) compared to the 24-35mm range. One of my copies did better at the tele side. However, when i compared two version II lenses the II lenses were always better for CA but in reality, the corner and center edge sharpness overlapped but not necessarily better than the version I. In fact, there were some parameters where my good 1 copy out shined one of the v2 lenses at almost every parameter I tested except for CA.
MSC wrote:
Thanks for that test. He does point out that he is getting another copy to try. I'm always a little suspect of drawing too much from a one lens test on a test chart. That does not account for many factors, including color, flare, etc. I'm also a little leary too as the 16-35II and the 14II were both dismissed early on as not any better or even worse the original, and that did not jive at all with my actual usage of them. Will see, but appreciate the link...interesting.
So now that this lens has been out there for a few weeks, what is the verdict?
I'm looking for a 24mm, and was wondering if the IQ performance of the new lens when stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8 is any better than the version I lens? I'm really interested in edge-to-edge sharpness, color and contrast, etc. comparisons.
jcbenner wrote:
So now that this lens has been out there for a few weeks, what is the verdict?
I'm looking for a 24mm, and was wondering if the IQ performance of the new lens when stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8 is any better than the version I lens? I'm really interested in edge-to-edge sharpness, color and contrast, etc. comparisons.
Thanks.
I doubt it... It will be hard to see significant differences in performance between any lens when stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8. I could be wrong though
Daan B wrote:
I doubt it... It will be hard to see significant differences in performance between any lens when stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8. I could be wrong though
Actually, I agree with the idea that at f8, there is little difference between lenses. Certainly between "L"'s and other high quality lenses, there is little dif at f8 (I am sure I'll get hammered for that. I'm not saying NO dif, but I am saying LITTLE dif between the best extreem and any good pro lens.) And, many non-L lenses are also nearly as good as the best at f8. To say it in the reverse, generally, high end performance is on the wide open end, and that's where you get most of what you are paying for, IMHO.
jcbenner wrote:
So now that this lens has been out there for a few weeks, what is the verdict?
Loving it.
I'm looking for a 24mm, and was wondering if the IQ performance of the new lens when stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8 is any better than the version I lens? I'm really interested in edge-to-edge sharpness, color and contrast, etc. comparisons.
See, I could not tell you. If I needed f5.6-f8, I'd use the 24-70 zoom. The reason to own this prime (for me) is low light, which brings me down to f2 and faster.
stanj wrote:
After a week of using it, I find the mk2 clearly more uniform on my two FF bodies. I didn't do a pixel peeping test yet, just looking at the overall image, and I can tell a clear difference to the original lens - and it was my favorite lens. This one has more of a 35L feel to it. I'm definitely very happy with the upgrade.
More uniform? What kind of a praise is that for a lens?
Yakim Peled wrote:
More uniform? What kind of a praise is that for a lens?
Given that the old 24L was often labeled "sharper in the center than the 35L, but oy the edges", when I say more uniform I guess I mean it looks more like a 35L or 85L. I didn't say it was praise, I said it as an observation. And it is possible to love even non-perfect lenses, such as in my case the original 24L, 28-300, or 400 DO. Take it for what you want, I like it. Maybe I don't shoot enough brick walls.
Stan, you have any shots with f2.0 or wider...better yet, all the way open? Just curious. Perhaps similar to your reasons for liking primes, I'm shooting wide open a lot and the wider very often allows a shot to be had whereas otherwise, I might have missed it...quite bit more than not for the last year or so.
Quite honestly I am about a week behind with photo processing, because I am working on a project from earlier that I have to finish before Monday. I'll PM you Monday or so, ok?
stanj wrote:
Given that the old 24L was often labeled "sharper in the center than the 35L, but oy the edges", when I say more uniform I guess I mean it looks more like a 35L or 85L. I didn't say it was praise, I said it as an observation. And it is possible to love even non-perfect lenses, such as in my case the original 24L, 28-300, or 400 DO. Take it for what you want, I like it. Maybe I don't shoot enough brick walls.
Your observation can be interpreted as "not sharp in the center and not sharp in the corners" or as "sharp in the center and sharp in the corners". Given that this is Mk II which is supposed to be an improvement I guess it means the latter. And that is a praise.
Can you post some comparative pictures when you'll have time?
Yakim Peled wrote:
Can you post some comparative pictures when you'll have time?
That may be difficult since I sold the mk1 already. I am going purely based on "feel", since I had the mk1 for 11 years and it's been one of my most used lenses. The fact that "it wasn't sharp in the corners" never really bothered me...
stanj wrote:
Quite honestly I am about a week behind with photo processing, because I am working on a project from earlier that I have to finish before Monday. I'll PM you Monday or so, ok?
Of course! Don't do anything that does not fit your normal schedule, appreciate it and also understand if you are jammed and cannot get to anytime soon, best, Shane
