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Sean Mills
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p.2 #1 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Shuko wrote:
Well, Im no expert on MTF reading, but that doesnt show stopped down lines at all?

"keep in mind that the black lines show the lens wide open while the blue lines show the lens stopped down to f/8".


I was noticing the same thing.


Sep 17, 2008 at 11:19 AM
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p.2 #2 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Any clue about price yet? I own current model and possibly will upgrade. Weathersealing is good new thing!!!

Sep 17, 2008 at 11:35 AM
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p.2 #3 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


The 24L is one of my most favourite lenses. Even better than my 35L.
While I do understand Canon's objective of polishing up their WA pro lenses, for me this is a case of guilding the lily.
My wallet loves it when Canon launches new equipment of limited interest to its owner.

Sep 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM
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p.2 #4 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Shuko wrote:
Well, Im no expert on MTF reading, but that doesnt show stopped down lines at all?

"keep in mind that the black lines show the lens wide open while the blue lines show the lens stopped down to f/8"

Red = "the higher up the chart the 10 LP/mm line is (the thick lines), the higher the contrast reproduction capability of the lens will be."

Blue = "the higher up the chart the 30 LP/mm line is (the thin lines), the higher the resolving power and thus subjective sharpness of the lens will be."


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So, comparing the red/blue to the black lines it seems new one is actually better, especially in corners?

Someone smarter correct if thats wrong.


Looking at the mtf's I would say that this:

Centre frame - both lenses essentially equal
Zone B - the old lens is slightly better for contrast, new lens for resolution
Corner - the new lens will be slightly better

This is all based upon computed mtf's; wide open, and will probably be affected by manufacturing tolerences. I may switch to the new one for the weather sealing and general reduction in CA's



Sep 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM
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p.2 #5 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


sboerup wrote:
Was planning on getting a 24L anyways, this makes the mk1 cheaper, or this one much better.


+2 or find one the boards for less then $875...


Sep 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM
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p.2 #6 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Roy Pertchik wrote:
...The new one looks a good bit more compact. ...


The new one is bigger and heavier

Old 83.5 x 77.4 550g
New 93.5 x 86.9 650g

I'll probably stick with my old one...I don't see enough of an improvement to switch. This kind of reminds me of the 85/1.2 upgrade.

Sep 17, 2008 at 12:53 PM
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p.2 #7 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


CVickery wrote:
Roy Pertchik wrote:
...The new one looks a good bit more compact. ...


The new one is bigger and heavier

Old 83.5 x 77.4 550g
New 93.5 x 86.9 650g

I'll probably stick with my old one...I don't see enough of an improvement to switch. This kind of reminds me of the 85/1.2 upgrade.


Looks like 82mm filters will become more common

Sep 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM
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p.2 #8 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Pixel Perfect wrote:
CVickery wrote:
Roy Pertchik wrote:
...The new one looks a good bit more compact. ...


The new one is bigger and heavier

Old 83.5 x 77.4 550g
New 93.5 x 86.9 650g

I'll probably stick with my old one...I don't see enough of an improvement to switch. This kind of reminds me of the 85/1.2 upgrade.


Looks like 82mm filters will become more common


Why? The 16-35/2.8 II is the only Canon lens which have them.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


Sep 17, 2008 at 01:00 PM
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p.2 #9 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


I held off on a 24L all this time, though I've been wanting one... Good timing I guess, as once the reviews come in I can pick from two.

But I'm really holding out for the results of the Zeiss 21mm before making any decisions.

Sep 17, 2008 at 01:31 PM
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p.2 #10 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Yakim Peled wrote:

Looks like 82mm filters will become more common


Why? The 16-35/2.8 II is the only Canon lens which have them.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


Because the 24L II seems like it will require an 82mm filter now wouldn't you think.

Sep 17, 2008 at 01:35 PM
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p.2 #11 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


"Filter Size: 77mm"

Why not just check stuff before guessing.

Sep 17, 2008 at 01:37 PM
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p.2 #12 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


DoubleNegative wrote:
I held off on a 24L all this time, though I've been wanting one... Good timing I guess, as once the reviews come in I can pick from two.



Nancy, just temember, the 24L II will probably start retailing at $ 1,599.
A used MkI can be found for a 1/2 of that.


Sep 17, 2008 at 01:44 PM
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p.2 #13 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


So Whayne, what's the scoop here with the 24L II anti ghost/flare coating ? Has Canon "borrowed" the Nikon's nano-crystal technology ?

Sep 17, 2008 at 01:55 PM
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p.2 #14 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Because the 24L II seems like it will require an 82mm filter now wouldn't you think.


Says 77mm right on the barrel mate.







Sep 17, 2008 at 01:58 PM
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p.2 #15 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Wow, they reduced closest focusing distance from 6.9" down to 3". Thats impressive.

Sep 17, 2008 at 02:00 PM
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p.2 #16 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Crap, I was really hoping for a 35L II.

Sep 17, 2008 at 02:29 PM
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p.2 #17 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Can anyone tell me why they upgraded this lens?

Sep 17, 2008 at 02:29 PM
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p.2 #18 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Seems like they are revamping the entire line with MkII's. This was just next on their list is my guess.

Sep 17, 2008 at 02:41 PM
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p.2 #19 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Shuko wrote:
Well, Im no expert on MTF reading, but that doesnt show stopped down lines at all?

"keep in mind that the black lines show the lens wide open while the blue lines show the lens stopped down to f/8"

Red = "the higher up the chart the 10 LP/mm line is (the thick lines), the higher the contrast reproduction capability of the lens will be."

Blue = "the higher up the chart the 30 LP/mm line is (the thin lines), the higher the resolving power and thus subjective sharpness of the lens will be."


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New
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So, comparing the red/blue to the black lines it seems new one is actually better, especially in corners?

Someone smarter correct if thats wrong.


You are correct.

Sep 17, 2008 at 03:15 PM
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p.2 #20 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


David Baldwin wrote:
Can anyone tell me why they upgraded this lens?


Because they are trying to make a business selling 15-21 megapixel cameras. Better have some lenses that can actually fill all those pixels with good detail.

Sep 17, 2008 at 03:52 PM
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p.2 #21 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


CVickery wrote:
Roy Pertchik wrote:
...The new one looks a good bit more compact. ...


The new one is bigger and heavier

Old 83.5 x 77.4 550g
New 93.5 x 86.9 650g

I'll probably stick with my old one...I don't see enough of an improvement to switch. This kind of reminds me of the 85/1.2 upgrade.


100g more, thats a step back, I want lighter not heavier.

Sep 17, 2008 at 03:55 PM
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p.2 #22 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


ick.


Thanks for the link.



Shuko wrote:
wtlloyd wrote:
I'm more interested in comparisons between this and the 16-35 II at 24mm.....


Assuming this will be better than the old 24, result of that comparison would be pretty clear.

http://tinyurl.com/24vs1635ii



Sep 17, 2008 at 03:58 PM
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p.2 #23 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


PetKal wrote:
Nancy, just temember, the 24L II will probably start retailing at $ 1,599.
A used MkI can be found for a 1/2 of that.


I doubt it, hotpants. Sounds more like MSRP than actual street price - and it'll drop after the "introductory period" further. It's not as much a niche lens as the 14L, so the economics will be a little different. Especially with FF becoming more and more mainstream (and the new 5D2).

But time (and reviews) will tell... The Zeiss 21mm Distagon still beckons.

Sep 17, 2008 at 04:13 PM
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p.2 #24 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Breitling65 wrote:
Any clue about price yet? I own current model and possibly will upgrade. Weathersealing is good new thing!!!


According to RG's site $1699 and due in December.
I guess I'll be getting a MkI. Dang it Canon quit screwwing us.


Sep 17, 2008 at 04:25 PM
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p.2 #25 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


I just bought a MkI this summer. I'll have to ignore any more about this for a few months, or that dreaded buyer remorse will get to me.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:14 PM

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