I'm not an expert in this area, but canon's recent model releases do seem a little underwhelming. The 1000D (forgotten about since everyone was expecting a 5D II) actually appears to be a downgrade relative to the 400D it replaced, and the 5D II here is missing features like weather sealing, that many customers are wanting and the competition provides. Hopefully the image quality is class-leading, so the technical omissions can be forgiven.
Daan B wrote:
Looks like a landscape/commercial cam to me... 21MP is overkill for weddings and every day usage. It remains slow (FPS) and it seems the AF from the 40D/50D has found its way into the 5D2. So sports and wildlife shooting is out of the question also. Not as allround as I would like it to be. I think I will stick with my 1Ds3
One FPS slower than 1DsMkIII. Not a big deal, I reckon.
However, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5DII surpasses 1DsMkIII in IQ and high ISO performance.
I think Canon had to assert their prosumer FF camera IQ superiority today......that's where the 5D II should shine......if in the process they have to run over their flagship camera, well, so be it.......I guess they figure the 1DsMk IV should fix any bad feelings about that.
Sunny Sra wrote:
i used to have the D60, shot with it in some very humid conditions, snow, rain etc...never a problem. it's also probably 1/2 the weither of teh 1dsIII ...i think it'll be just fine in weather shooting...
Well go to Iguazu falls and try to take a picture there...
What's annoying is that it's a marketing decision as always.
D700 wasn't enough to change Canon's approach - milk as long as you can,
who cares what the customers want....
PetKal wrote:
One FPS slower than 1DsMkIII. Not a big deal, I reckon.
However, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5DII surpasses 1DsMkIII in IQ and high ISO performance.
I think Canon had to assert their prosumer FF camera IQ superiority today......that's where the 5D II should shine......if in the process they have to run over their flagship camera, well, so be it.......I guess they figure the 1DsMk IV should fix any bad feelings about that.
It'll trounce the 1Ds III in noise at least and overall in IQ I'm sure
they show the new battery grip (meet the new boss, same as the old boss...) but then they also show a DIFFERENT grip mounted, that says "wireless file transmitter."
I assume that means the transmitter is built into this second grip. I guess that's a good thing if you intend to buy the transmitter right away. It kind of sucks if you want to buy a grip now, and maybe buy a transmitter later.
Its probably the same style grips/trans as the 40D. It only holds one battery.
snowboarder wrote:
Well go to Iguazu falls and try to take a picture there...
What's annoying is that it's a marketing decision as always.
D700 wasn't enough to change Canon's approach - milk as long as you can,
who cares what the customers want....
is that equivalent to dunking the 1dsIII into sea water and see what happens? seriously..just move on.
tomdos wrote:
I too am worried they left out the gapless. Would be a shame to have a newer/better technology in the 50D. I really hope that's an accidental omission.
I am, however, suprised that EF-S lenses will work. Will be curious to read what the sensor scales down to with a crop lens mounted.
Lets wait. The information is not overworked yet:
Specifications
Type: Digital, single-lens reflex, AF/AE camera with built-in flash
Did not see the flash.
I guess it has gapeless microlenses. High ISO is 2 stops higher than 1Ds offers. That imo can not just be done with Digic IV. They would not bring a 5D MK II with lower IQ than 50D.
tomdos wrote:
It's possible...the D700 allows it. Why not add it and scale back a portion of the sensor that is used.
I'd trade the gapless omission for an "error" on the EF-S lens usability.
The D700 doesn’t. the FX and DX lenses from Nikkor use the same mount. Canon’s short-back-focus lenses protrude further into the body, so it’s not the same thing. Crop lenses with EF mount and the method of cropping to 1.6 (1.5 in Nikon’s case) would work.
Napalm wrote:
Another body HAS to be coming at photokina.
Doubt it, and think Canon is really setting itself up for Nikon to eat it's lunch. It doesn't happen overnight, but if you look at the facts that Nikon is about to introduce a FF sensor around 24 mp, they give a pro build on several cameras, and the noise gap is closing, while Canon keeps doling out the features, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to see the writing on the wall. I had hoped Canon would figure it out and make the 5D replacement something other than a 5D w/more pixels and higher iso.
Don't understand why they are satisfied with the market share loss this strategy has yielded.
Beni wrote:
According to DPReview al 9 AF point are now cross type, in other words the camera has now been updated to the focusing system of the - 40D.
Anyone see anything about any weather sealing at all? Even to 40D standards?
Both RG and image-resource say largely unchanged from 5D, and does not have 40D upgrades, only lens microadjust.
Beni wrote:
According to DPReview al 9 AF point are now cross type, in other words the camera has now been updated to the focusing system of the - 40D.
Anyone see anything about any weather sealing at all? Even to 40D standards?
Both RG and image-resource say largely unchanged from 5D, and does not have 40D upgrades, only lens microadjust.
Sunny Sra wrote:
is that equivalent to dunking the 1dsIII into sea water and see what happens? seriously..just move on.
What about stop nagging at those that have different wants and needs than you do? If you want a slow, high res, great IQ camera, with no other bells and whistles, that is great. Some of us DO want things like better weather sealing and maybe a more updated AF, that doesen't make us stupid or anything else you might want to imply, it just means that we have different wants and needs. Implementing better weathersealing would not cost canon more than $10 in R&D and $5 pr camera in production cost, this is a "let us be careful not to step too much on the 1ds mark III's toes" decision, and it might prove to be a sound business decision, OR it might prove to be unwise, we don't know yet, but "move on" and acting condecending is not solving much.
