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p.2 #1 · Bibble 5

Bibble seems to be able to do really well with the Kodak SLRn/SLRc, 5D, 1Ds, 30D/40D, and the Olympus D-SLR's. I recently started using it to process the D300 files and agree with how it has the ability to get the most out of the images with the least amount of effort.
Version 4.10 isn't too shabby... does a better job for me than CS or the OEM software packages. And I found 4.10 to be a pretty good upgrade from 4.9.....I am sure version 5 will be better.

Sep 18, 2008 at 02:16 AM

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p.2 #2 · Bibble 5

davidearls wrote:

Is there up-res in Bibble 5?

All I can say is that it was one of the most requested features, and the Bibble folks listen to their users (and speak back, in fact).

Sep 18, 2008 at 04:57 AM

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p.2 #3 · Bibble 5

Does it work on the Mac OS 10.5? Occasionally, I get so sick of CS3 (Bridge, mostly) I would be happy to try anything!

Sep 19, 2008 at 01:16 AM

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p.2 #4 · Bibble 5

Re. uprezzing: we use Genuine Fractals here and are 100% happy with it. Definitely works better than resizing from within CS3, IMHO.

Sep 19, 2008 at 01:21 AM

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p.2 #5 · Bibble 5

Kit Laughlin wrote:
Does it work on the Mac OS 10.5? Occasionally, I get so sick of CS3 (Bridge, mostly) I would be happy to try anything!

All versions of Bibble are released for Windows, OSX and Linux. I can't imagine that changing in Bibble 5. In fact, they are adding 64 bit builds for all OSs this time around as well. The demo videos show this, as the Windows system they are using has 16GB of RAM.

Sep 19, 2008 at 02:59 PM

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p.2 #6 · Bibble 5

Kit Laughlin wrote:
Re. uprezzing: we use Genuine Fractals here and are 100% happy with it. Definitely works better than resizing from within CS3, IMHO.

Yeah, I'm not all that worried about Bibble doing uprezzing either, as I am perfectly happy with Fred's PS resize plugins. On the other hand, if Bibble 5s uprezzing is good, then that'll be one less step for me.

Sep 19, 2008 at 03:01 PM

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p.2 #7 · Bibble 5

I must be doing something wrong. I tried browsing a folder of images in v4, and all I see is 20 pictures of a cat (not my images), and I can't seem to open any of the images. I'm probably doing something wrong, but I usually master a whole program without any help from a manual (e.g. Photoshop, Lightroom) so I wouldn't call this an intuitive interface.

Sep 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM

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p.2 #8 · Bibble 5

foto-z wrote:
I must be doing something wrong. I tried browsing a folder of images in v4, and all I see is 20 pictures of a cat (not my images), and I can't seem to open any of the images. I'm probably doing something wrong, but I usually master a whole program without any help from a manual (e.g. Photoshop, Lightroom) so I wouldn't call this an intuitive interface.

No, it isn't an intuitive interface. That is one of the main issues with B4. This is why I said wait for B5.

Having said that, I've been using it for years with no problem at all.

What kind of files are you browsing? (format, Camera, etc.)

cats = unsupported images

Sep 20, 2008 at 12:44 PM

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p.2 #9 · Bibble 5

I was trying to browse DNG images. I'd be surprised if that wasn't a supported format, but I admit I didn't check.

Sep 20, 2008 at 01:13 PM

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p.2 #10 · Bibble 5

foto-z wrote:
I was trying to browse DNG images. I'd be surprised if that wasn't a supported format, but I admit I didn't check.

Quote from the Bibble Forum (by Colleen, one of the developers):

"Only DNGs directly from the camera are supported in Bibble 4; the converted ones are expected to show up as the cat."

Sep 20, 2008 at 02:27 PM

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p.2 #11 · Bibble 5

Ah: the manual. A last resort for me too, usually.

Sep 20, 2008 at 09:47 PM

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p.2 #12 · Bibble 5

cogitech wrote:

"Only DNGs directly from the camera are supported in Bibble 4; the converted ones are expected to show up as the cat."

Mine was not exactly converted, but anyway I hope for full DNG support in future.

Sep 21, 2008 at 02:56 PM

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p.2 #13 · Bibble 5

foto-z wrote:
cogitech wrote:

"Only DNGs directly from the camera are supported in Bibble 4; the converted ones are expected to show up as the cat."

Mine was not exactly converted, but anyway I hope for full DNG support in future.

If your camera writes native DNG files and B4 can't open them, I encourage you to contact the developers via the Bibble Forum and make a request. They pride themselves on compatibility, but non-native (generic) DNGs introduce a bunch of issues for them.

Sep 21, 2008 at 03:11 PM

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p.2 #14 · Bibble 5

Kit Laughlin wrote:
Re. uprezzing: we use Genuine Fractals here and are 100% happy with it. Definitely works better than resizing from within CS3, IMHO.

Kit,

We only use upres from within ACR, and it will only upres RAW files from the 1DsII one step of 23%. If you need something between 1% and 23%, you have to upres to 23% and then downres in Photoshop. Hardly optimal, but it has proved effective, and, of course, the capability is provided within the price of PS - BTW, we do not use bicubic sharper in PS when downrezzing -

We just take the 23% step as acceptable, and it produces a very fine 12×18" image at 344 dpi for the inkjet -

We tried the trial version of Bibble and ran some tests. We made our Bibble adjustments and converted to .tif, then uprezzed using Fred's plug-in and bicubic smoother in PS. The original we uprezzed in ACR was superior to both uprezzed tiffs. In this sort of comparison, there's only first place and "all other" - we use PhotoKit Sharpener for sharpening in PS.

We absolutely preferred Bibble to both ACR and DPP for RAW processing - hope to see upres in the new Bibble -

Sep 21, 2008 at 03:50 PM

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p.2 #15 · Bibble 5

B5 looks really interesting! When will they release it?

Sep 21, 2008 at 05:15 PM

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p.2 #16 · Bibble 5

moire wrote:
B5 looks really interesting! When will they release it?

"This year."

Sep 21, 2008 at 06:03 PM

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p.2 #17 · Bibble 5

cogitech wrote:
If your camera writes native DNG files and B4 can't open them, I encourage you to contact the developers via the Bibble Forum and make a request. They pride themselves on compatibility, but non-native (generic) DNGs introduce a bunch of issues for them.

I'll just wait for v5 and see how that handles the Sinar DNGs.

Sep 21, 2008 at 06:20 PM

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p.2 #18 · Bibble 5

foto-z wrote:
I must be doing something wrong. I tried browsing a folder of images in v4, and all I see is 20 pictures of a cat (not my images), and I can't seem to open any of the images. I'm probably doing something wrong, but I usually master a whole program without any help from a manual (e.g. Photoshop, Lightroom) so I wouldn't call this an intuitive interface.

It's not indeed. Too bad because for everything else I really like Bibble. The picture of the cat (his name is Bibble btw) shows up when something went wrong (as you guessed).

The interface looks much better on V5. Can't wait to download it!

Sep 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM

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p.2 #19 · Bibble 5

I would love to try it but I've keyworded and smart-collected all my images in Lightroom. Will B5 be mainly a straight raw converter? Or are they making an attempt at a CMS?

Sep 22, 2008 at 03:54 AM

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p.2 #20 · Bibble 5

David,

Thanks for that: nothing beats testing and comparing! For me, I would rather wait and learn the new program and interface just the once.

cheers, KL

Sep 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM

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p.2 #21 · Bibble 5

I've been using BibblePro almost exclusively since 4.x was released, and it's still my favorite. Aperture 2.x has its benefits, but I haven't used it on enough files to make a firm decision as to whether I have a preference for it over Bibble, yet. I'm very excited about BibblePro 5.x, but they've been dragging out the release since Summer of last year, and that's getting tiresome. Here's to hoping it's all they say it is.

Oct 03, 2008 at 04:37 AM

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p.2 #22 · Bibble 5

I use Bibble 4, too, and I'm eagerly looking forward to the new version. I love the speed, and I get better results with it than with any other converter I've tried.

Oct 03, 2008 at 10:31 PM

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p.2 #23 · Bibble 5

According to the Bibble forum, it won't be 64 bit at the outset. Does it work on Linus 64 bit distros?

Oct 11, 2008 at 07:25 AM

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p.2 #24 · Bibble 5

The current 32bit Linux Bibble works fine on 64bit distros.

Oct 14, 2008 at 03:19 AM


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