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John Power
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p.1 #1 · Another photosharing question


I shot a local dance competition and many parents are interested in buying prints. I have about 600 shots and need a web service that will let me upload them so the parents can review them and contact me with orders. I will want a PW protected site. I do not want to sell prints from the site. They can contact me directly about purchases.

Sep 05, 2008 at 06:53 PM
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I use ImageEvent, because it was rated very highly in a comparison I saw on a web site. I haven't used it for what you're intending, but it can certainly be used that way. It's the only such site I've ever used, so I have no basis for comparison to Flickr or any of the others...

Sep 05, 2008 at 11:15 PM
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You can use just about any display site to do what you want if you don't want to sell them. Ofoto, Snapfish...heck, even Costco will let you do this, or the free version of SmugMug (maybe, been a while since I used them and I had the Pro version when I did). No need to pay money for a site that allow commerical sales then. Something like Exposure Manager has the ability for you to message people when viewing to contact for prints...but you don't need to spend money on a site for only what you describe here...unless I'm missing something, which is possible and happens often.

Sep 06, 2008 at 12:30 AM
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John Power wrote:
I shot a local dance competition and many parents are interested in buying prints. I have about 600 shots and need a web service that will let me upload them so the parents can review them and contact me with orders. I will want a PW protected site. I do not want to sell prints from the site. They can contact me directly about purchases.


Also, I know you don't want to hear this...but if there was a photographer contracted with the event to do this, then my guess is that you do not have the right to do this. My contracts with venues, clubs, events, are exclusive...and in writing. Some will correctly argue that you should only do any selling like this with approval from the venue, and contract with them. For people that contract for photographing events for the purpose of selling images, like me, it is a big deal when someone trys to go around the process and go around the arranged photographer.

I've had people do this to me over the years and I always have the event organizer to after them to stop, and they do. Nothing is more annoying then working out a deal with a school, or a venue, or a club, being insured, having a contract, bringing the gear, spending the time, than to have someone try to skirt the whole thing. It is bad business and loses money for both the venue and the photographer.

I had a women going around shooting one sport at a local HS I was contracted with, shooting the lacross games, passing out business cards, and selling CDs with all of her images for $50 each. I did not approach her directly, not my style, but did tell the school's Athletic Director who immediately put an end to that and gave a sermon to the Booster Club for the whole school about being on the lookout for this kind of thing and telling him whenever it happens so he can stop it. And it did not happen again. And needless to say, the way the woman was going about it, she knew she was wrong...but then again, she really did not care in the least, she was happy to make a few hundred bucks, at my and the school's expense, and move on to the next school (this last part is my speculation).

Some will also say that unless you are pricing to market for what photographers are charging, you are under-cutting the business in general.

So anyway, not saying you are doing this, but if you are and it were my gig, I'd have the club stop this in a heartbeat...and they would do so gladly. Not to mention the ethics of it.

That's my soapbox but it is also reality...hope it is helpful info.


Edited on Sep 06, 2008 at 12:47 AM


Sep 06, 2008 at 12:39 AM
John Power
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p.1 #5 · Another photosharing question


I was the only shooter there and I was there for that specific purpose. To offer prints for sale to anyone who was interested.

As for pricing, I will give them away if I want to...its a free market out there. I quote a fee of $5000 for a burglary. The guy goes to a kid fresh out of law school and gets a quote for $2500. OK. So what. Hire him. Nobody owes anybody else any duty as far as fees charged are concerned. For any profession.

Without me doing this there would have been no photos. Nada, zero, nothing.

Edited on Sep 06, 2008 at 02:37 AM


Sep 06, 2008 at 02:30 AM
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John Power wrote:
I was the only shooter there and I was there for that specific purpose. To offer prints for sale to anyone who was interested.

As for pricing, I will give them away if I want to...its a free market out there. I quote a fee of $5000 for a burglary. The guy goes to a kid fresh out of law school and gets a quote for $2500. OK. So what. Hire him. Nobody owes anybody else any duty as far as fees charged are concerned. For any profession.

Without me doing this there would have been no photos. Nada, zero, nothing.


I don't care what you do. Trying to give you a sense of reality which obviously means nothing to you. Just don't do it with my contracted clients or you will be stopped. If you want to work for free, go ahead...the photos are worth what people pay for them...that's how free markets work.

Edited on Sep 06, 2008 at 02:52 AM


Sep 06, 2008 at 02:50 AM
John Power
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p.1 #7 · Another photosharing question


I have been practicing law for 30 years so I know all about contractual rights, exclusivity, etc., etc. I don't need to try and muscle into to someone else's "territory" to try and make a few bucks. As long as you and I have been FM members I'm surprised you would even think it necessary to "educate" me about these things.

In any event, thanks to all for the suggestions.


Edited on Sep 06, 2008 at 03:13 AM


Sep 06, 2008 at 03:10 AM
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p.1 #8 · Another photosharing question


John Power wrote:
I have been practicing law for 30 years so I know all about contractual rights, exclusivity, etc., etc. I don't need to try and muscle into to someone else's "territory" to try and make a few bucks. As long as you and I have been FM members I'm surprised you would even think it necessary to "educate" me about these things.

In any event, thanks to all for the suggestions.


Sorry, you are right...un-needed and too edgy on my part.

On websites, PBase and FM Gallery hosting here are cheap and great presentation quality.

Edited on Sep 06, 2008 at 03:57 AM


Sep 06, 2008 at 03:30 AM

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